The talk around the table in the safe house in Indonesia turned from pleasantries to serious business - which western target to bomb.
After the Bali bombings in October 2002 and the JW Marriott hotel attack in Jakarta the following August, another statement against the American-led wars in Afghanistan and Iraq had to be made.
Malaysians Azahari bin Husin and Noordin Mohammad Top and Indonesian Dulmatin, leading members of Southeast Asia's most feared terrorist group, Jemaah Islamiah (JI), were in agreement that Australia, with more than 800 troops in Iraq, should suffer.
Last Thursday, the fruits of their agreement became a reality when a van carrying a 200kg bomb exploded outside the Australian embassy in Jakarta.
That was the likely scenario depicted yesterday by US researcher Zachary Abuza, the foremost expert on JI who has spent years studying the group, though he stressed little accurate information was available on its operations.
Despite warnings from Australian intelligence operatives that JI could soon launch another attack on western interests, Dr Abuza said he did not believe another attack was imminent.