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PUBLISHED : Thursday, 14 February, 2013, 8:36am
UPDATED : Thursday, 14 February, 2013, 10:56am

Some vindication of Ping Fu and the malicious Chinese cyber trolls 'persecuting' her with facts

Last month, China's most feared fraud detector Fang Zhouzi noticed American entrepreneur Ping Fu making improbable claims in interviews as publicity for her book, "Bend, Not Break: A Life in Two Worlds" and went to work debunking them in his trademark meticulous style.

For people familiar with China's horrendous Cultural Revolution and tumultuous early 1980s, Fang's takedown left little doubt of the veracity of Fu's wilder claims to media, some of which she then retracted, suggesting the record would be set straight if people would just read her book.

Meanwhile, press coverage of Fu and her book was almost exclusively as uncritical as it was patronising, led by The Daily Beast, Huffington PostForbes as well as others.

Exhaustive attempts were made in comment sections to explain the issue, but Fu's supporters appeared unwilling to listen. Even senior Reuters editor Harold Evans (and husband of Daily Beast founder Tina Brown) turned out to vouch for Fu, calling online appeals to reason a persecution.

Of course by this time actual internet trolls, the ones who fabricate China's history in the opposite direction, had joined in, but all of this appeared lost on Fu's unquestioning cheerleaders who, variously, dismissed all the feedback as an attack by Chinese internet vigilantes, a coordinated smear campaign against Fu, now placed high "on the vituperative frontline of cyber hostilities between China and the West".

Ping Fu, the woman in the picture posing with the other Red Guards, who emerged from the Cultural Revolution politically correct enough to be one of the highly privileged few allowed to study abroad in the early 1980s.

Eventually some sense came into play via The Guardian's Tania Branigan and Ed Pilkington, who took the time to read the book.

What did they find?

One of her most striking claims is that Sun Yat-sen, revered as the father of modern China, "raised my grandfather and granduncle as his own sons" – akin to a Briton being reared by Winston Churchill. Prof John Wong of the University of Sydney, an expert on Sun's life, said he had no knowledge of such wards.

Fu told the Guardian: "That was what I was told by my family before I left China. I believe this is true. My mother says it's in history books." She then added that Sun was attentive towards them, rather than actually adopting them.

In a chapter of her book titled Factory Worker, Fu describes labouring in factories for a decade until schools reopened in 1976. She describes working six hours a day, six days a week and told an interviewer she never went to school in 10 years.

Experts on the cultural revolution told the Guardian schools mostly reopened in 1968 or 1969 and that pupils had lessons in factories to learn skills, but were not used as labour.

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larry.trump.7
Another amazing story told by Ping, using XBOX Kinect to scan a broken arm.
-- Does she know what she's talking about???
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Ping Fu of GeoMagic recounted a story in which an employee of her company broke his arm on the way to work. Instead of going to the emergency room, the mathematics whiz showed up at work and used an on-site Xbox Kinect System to scan his injured limb. The scan data was given to one of Geomagic's designers who literally on the spot designed and 3D printed his coworker a custom cast.
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****solidsmack.com/fabrication/the-3d-print-bubble-still-too-early-for-consumers/
wang.long.547727
Fu Ping herself provided a photo of her posing in frond of a flag that read "Red guard legion". She claim that the photo was taken in front of her school. But it was discovered from the words on the sculpture in the background that it's actually taken at a well known tourist attraction. She was also adamant that she was not wearing armband like the others. But the link below is an image in which a Sohu blogger named @刘宇007 analyzed the photo, and showed very clearly that there was the armband with "红卫兵" or "Red guard" on it.
****s3.t.itc.cn/mblog/pic/20132_16_17/m_p3dq08723103818196.png
Also notice that the girl right behind Fu Ping clearly wore the armband. If you examine the texture of her armband and Fu Ping's sleeve at the elbow, you can see that they look exactly the same, with the same highlighted marks caused by the characters on the armband.
wang.long.547727
Part of the word “衛”, which is traditional Chinese character for "卫" or guard is also visible at the elbow of the sleeve, which proves she wore the armband beyond doubt. The probability of shading coincidentally formed likening of these one and a half characters is basically non exist.
larry.trump.7
A list of key events related to this controversy:
****en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Parisapril
larry.trump.7
If Ping had relatives outside mainland China in 1982-1984, then it will be really easy to understand how she got out of China and into a US university.
But then, it will contradict Ping's claim of no money, no help situation at UNM.
Now Ping has the dilemma: to verify the connection, or to nullify it??
Looks like a deadlock.
chrislee
What amuses me so far is why none of the American media outlets has published a balanced story... yet. Are they not interested in the story?
wang.long.547727
@ping.fu It's funny that you are saying the "experts" claimed your great grandpa doesn't exist, because that's obviously absurd. They simply claimed that they were not aware of Sun Yat Sen had your great grandpa as an adoptive child, or raised him as his own as you wrote in your book.
wang.long.547727
Fu Ping's great grandpa was connected to Sun Yat Sen is not the same thing as Sun Yat Sen raised him as his own son, as Fu wrote in her book. I think everyone can agree with this. It is like if you participated in a competition, but didn't win the title, then you shouldn't claim that you were the champion. If you claimed so and people questioned it, you shouldn't simply refute them by showing your pass to the competition, because that's only proof of participation, not winning.
It seems that many comments here even questioned whether Fu Cixiang was really Fu Ping's great grandpa. They are probably wrong, but still, that doesn't mean Fu Ping had been completely truthful in her book.
larry.trump.7
Looks like 傅作义 is also a famous person in China. Same last name.
Is he related?
傅作义,字宜生,山西省榮河縣(今萬榮縣)人。中国现代军事家,国民革命军将领。
****zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%82%85%E4%BD%9C%E4%B9%89
silk.skirt
to lee.jack:
1. I would like to learn the proof of the accusation : "Fang Zhouzi himself has been exposed of numerous scams, make-ups and plagiarism";
2. FP has admitted what Fang and others had pointed out, what are you defending?
3. After all, there is no one perfect, so by your token, everyone should shut up?
allen.simons.56
up!
lee.jack.77770
Matthew 23:27-28
27 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean. 28 In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.
lee.jack.77770
Jesus straightened up, and said to all of you: "He who is without lies among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." You despicable scums!!
dunndavid
Chinese people lying to gullible Western media and being subsequently caught out by actual China experts, gee haven't we seen this story many many times? Unfortunately in modern China, commitment to truth is very weak.
lee.jack.77770
Fang Zhouzi himself has been exposed of numerous scams, make-ups and plagiarism (see ****www.2250s.com/list.php?28) However, it appears that most news media is unwilling to investigate this fraudulent "fraud fighter". These media and reporters are not interested in the truth. They enjoy using their position to abuse and bully others under the pretense of neutrality. They are despicable scums, just like Fang!
larry.trump.7
So for now, connection between 傅慈祥 and Ping Fu is lost.
Can anybody help?
傅慈祥(1872-1900)原名元臣,字良弼。湖北潜江人。
****www.xhgmw.org/archive-49189.shtml
yeahright
Er, the headline says the exact opposite of the story. There's no vindication of Ping Fu or her troll supporters, just the opposite.
larry.trump.7
Apparently, grand daughter of 傅光培 is living in China.
minghui.yu
56岁的外孙女's last name should not be Fu.
larry.trump.7
傅光培出生于1896年,是国民党的最后一任汉口财政局局长。如今78岁的女儿和56岁的外孙女都退休了,。。。
****www.cnhan.com/GB/content/2001-01/03/content_42620.htm
larry.trump.7
****baike.baidu.com/view/4552466.htm
傅光培
Is this Ping's grandpa??? They have the same last name!
ping.fu
傅光培 is my grand uncle, older brother of my grandpa who went to Taiwan. 傅光培 has one daughter, and my grandpa has two sons, the older one (my father's brother) went to Taiwan who I never met, he passed away. My father stay in China, he was a professor at NUAA, and was condemned as Taiwan spy, counterrevolutionary member.
Before he died, he wrote "My dear daughters, please forgive me, please don't hate me for I couldn't take care you. But i want you to know, it was the thought of you that kept me live, for all these years, when I thought life was too hard to carry on. I lived because I want to see you again and I want to tell you that I love you." I cry deeply every time I reas this passage, Let's all heal together.
ping.fu
Here are the links to my Great Grandpa, I wonder why experts say he does not exist.
****tw.027.cn/%E5%82%85%E6%85%88%E7%A5%A5
****www.baike.com/wiki/%E5%82%85%E6%85%88%E7%A5%A5
****baike.baidu.com/view/388651.htm
****www.szlhlib.com.cn/web/information.do?actionCmd=view&id=2114
****www.xhgmw.org/archive-49189.shtml
wang.long.547727
In the Guardian article, the expert only said they were not aware of Sun Yat Sen has your father as an adoptive son. It pretty obvious they couldn't have said your great grandpa doesn't exist because that's absurd.
wang.long.547727
I think people are missing the point here. The main problem is not whether your great grandpa is Fu Cixiang or not, but whether Fu cixiang is Sun Yat Sen's adoptive son, or as you described in your book, Sun raised him as his own son. Just showing the connection between Sun Yat Sen and your great grandpa doesn't prove what you claimed in your book is true, I think everyone can agree that they are really very different statements. It's like if you participated in a competition but didn't win a title, then you shouldn't claim that you are the champion. If you claimed so, and people pointed out it's not true, you can't just refute them by showing your enrollment documents for the competition.
allen.simons.56
Based on what you said in your book, we can not believe what you are saying here. You have to show some hard core evidences, not just "told by my parents ..blah blah blah...".
Let's take one step back and assume Mr. Fu Cixiang is indeed your great grandfather. He was a great man who devoted himself to his nation. However, his greatness has nothing to do with all your lies in your shady book. What you said in your previous interviews and other occassions contradicts with the contents of your book. How could you explain that? So, tell us where you lied, in those interviews or in the book?
Now, you brought up your great great grandfather. I am wondering what you want to use him for. Actually, what you did regarding your book shamed your great grandfarther if he is.
larry.trump.7
There is this historical person sharing the same last name with you, but that's not enough to show that you two are related.
ping.fu
do fact check
 
 
 
 
 

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