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PUBLISHED : Monday, 08 April, 2013, 12:00am
UPDATED : Monday, 08 April, 2013, 2:04am

Young should take real risks before fighting for democracy

You know why we are always rounding on our government? It's not just because it's undemocratic. Are we unfree and oppressed? Actually, we are freer and richer than most full democracies.

What we don't admit is that we have come to rely too much on the government and expect it to fix every problem for us, right now! That's the sense of entitlement and instant gratification of the iPhone-pan-democrat generation. Parallel traders blocking MTR traffic? It's the government's fault. The economy taking a dive? Also its fault. No milk powder? The government's fault. Flats too expensive … Everything is the stupid government's responsibility and therefore it can never do anything right. The more activist a government, the less likely it will get many things right.

This, by the way, is why many people have this terribly mistaken notion that the colonial Brits were superior governors. I lived at least 25 years of my life under their rule and I can tell you they weren't all that competent. They were, however, far less responsive to popular demands. When your subjects had low expectations of you, it was easy to meet them.

Native entrepreneurship was what made Hong Kong great. Its disappearance will spell the city's decline. Because you couldn't rely on the Brits to take care of you, you had to take care of yourself. That was how Hong Kong got rich - entrepreneurship - thanks to enterprising Chinese, Indian, Pakistani and other risk-takers.

Today, the word entrepreneurship is conspicuously absent in public discourse. In its place, democracy has taken hold. Yet I don't know any truly freer person than an entrepreneur, who is in control of her own destiny.

Instead of starting a business in a burst of entrepreneurial creativity à la Steve Jobs or Mark Zuckerberg, many young people either want to join big corporations or the government on a fast track to senior management - and/or protest for democracy. What they all have in common is that they take no risk. Our young democracy fighters may fantasise about June 4, but no PLA tanks will ever run over them.

Young man and woman, take real risks! Travel the world, read widely, strike out on your own, start a business (in another city with low rents). Then come back and fight for democracy.

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pslhk
son so rice bucket: 'whymak'---a nickname of a group of hired 'writers'
holy, holy, we must report this to Vatican
sonny witnessed transfiguration
no wonder wise man said: thanks for another good laugh
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whymak is actually too kindly
I won’t have the patience
experimenting the enlightenment of anencephalic loud speakers
the sun also rises
Undoubtedly,even an average secondary student in the territory,his /her English will definitely and certainly,I dare say, much better than this so-called,'whymak'---a nickname of a group of hired 'writers'---the cheapest and poorest guys here in this Comment column to beat /attack anyone who are outspoken enough to support the universal suffrage in 2017 to be a geniune one instead of a faked one----with so-called a screening mechanism or a 'primary poll' or the pre-conditions set by Old GuyQiao (the so-called self-taught legal expert who hasn't got the basic law perceptions of law ABC according to international standard !) that our candidates competing for the top post should be one 'loving the country(the Party ?) and Hong Kong ( of course !) and not 'confrontational towards the Beijing authorities---demanding an end of the one-party rule on Mainland: practising democracy there.Elections is definitely an internal affair of Hong Kong itself and is not related to either defence or diplomacy at all ! This 'whymak ' team should meet Marx the earlier the better instead of misleading our dear readers here while polluting this precious Comment column, I think.
the sun also rises
he-he-he-he,ha-ha-ha-ha ? How can such lousy English be allowed in this respectable long-standing local newspaper which is never a mouthpiece of the authorities even during the reign of the British colonial era ? Now this nasty guy nicknamed 'whymak '(who claimed to have taught (maybe kindergarten only due to his/her level in English) might be the name of a team sent here from the North to monitor the local media (including this Comment column which is an open one) and carries the duties to attack/strike at those views which are different from theirs or opposing the policies of the Central government or the SAR administration !' whymak' is never a single person's name but the team name of a group---hired 'writers' of the poorest type to beat any dissidents here in the Comment column. I hope I have guessed it wrong ! May God curse them for their ignorance and arrogance not to say bad taste and impoliteness shown towards other Comment writers ! amen.
whymak
Your third grade reading and writing levels are duly acknowledged by all SCMP readers.
whymak
X-men, Insect repellant, Quiet American,
SCMP readers should express heartfelt thanks for the Theological Trinity's lecture on pre-Hellenistic democracy and most importantly, the logic therein.
You give us the ironclad truth: The majority is always right. That’s why the God of Abraham religions now command a majority following of the world population.
Unlike the Blessed Trifecta who have mastered thoroughly their Form 1 history course, I stagnated over “A Child's Bible History” at Primary 4. Thanks to your lesson on logic, I am now being drawn toward God of Abraham and Democracy.
God created Adam and Eve. He commanded them to be fruitful and to multiply. After Cain killed Abel, his other brothers and sisters married one another and procreated just as God ordered. When God destroyed everyone on earth but spared Noah, his children committed incest to perpetuate the human race.
Incest is good. As the Trifecta Logic points out, man practiced it more than 6,000 years ago.
Chinese are atheists. They don’t like incest, religion and democracy, which are now universal human values. Remember the belief of the majority. Except for the enlightened few like the super-intellectual trio in the global Democratic and Christian majority, the Chinese are now toast.
Behold, the yellow horde’s last days will be worse than Sodom and Gomorrah. X-men gives them 20 years. His prophesy is right on the money.
whymak
X-men, Insect repellant, Quiet American,
He-he-he-he! Ha-ha-ha-ha! Let all readers of this column have a good laugh! These monikers are likely the same person. All exhibit exactly the same level of illiteracy.
Three dogs marking scent – defecating on SCMP’s lawn – turn out to be the same beast. This is funnier, though more messy, than all TV situation comedies. Please don’t quit, we really enjoy this gig.
What's in a name? An imbecile 4-legged by any other name smells just as malodorous.
Thanks for sharing your personal attainment with the humble readers of this column. Indeed, if you didn’t remind us, few would know that you had reached the incredibly exalted Form 1 level. Your regurgitation of Form 1 textbook material without a nanosecond of thought is perfect testimony of your credentials. That’s why SCMP readers have overwhelmingly voted you in for the Manchurian Candidate Gold Medal. Beijing tyrants and authoritarians are now shaking in their boots by this brilliant triumvirate Western implant.
Incidentally, from what I heard from Mr. Lo's grapevine, you have been selected to be a keynote speaker by the US House of Representatives for the "China Bashing & Demonizing Conference." Could this be confirmed by you? If true, our belated congratulations.
Keep your good stuff coming! We keep no dunce caps in Mr. Lo’s column.
the sun also rises
any normal forum writer won't wirte/express his/her views at 4:17 a.m.early in the morning to attack other Comment writers for their words or views uttered which are allowed in this society which practises and observes freedom of expression and speech.This whymak might probably be one of the team members of a group sent here from the North to oppress any disloyal or dissient views especially those concern our upcoming Universal Suffrage in 2017. I wish I have guessed it wrongly.But the bitter truth is:my prediction /guess might turn out to be exactly true-----we Hongkongers are now closely being monitored for our words and acts by the Big Brother's Eyes /men sent here either in the media or on social websites plus at public gatherings ! Beware of your danger close at hand ! Regards !
whymak
"Beware of your danger close at hand !"
You are another evangelical Democracy eschatologist. In case you don't know this word, look it up in the dictionary.
Thanks for another good laugh. Go ahead and make my day, or night!
the sun also rises
in today's history book of form one in our secondary schools (e.g.the local government secondary schools) ,there is a chapter named: Ancient Greco-Roman Civilizations.In it there is a description of the democratic polical system in ancient Greek state:Athens which was known for its open-air theatres, literature and temples besides the first western nation to practise democracy------all male citizens aged 20 or above got the right to vote for the government posts, not to say their leader.They got the right to be voted too.That explains why Athens is honoured as the birthplace of western democracy which is copied by many democratic countries around the world in 21st century except a small bunch of autocratic countries which are struggling with their non-democractic rules which are detested and will soon be abandoned by their people within this century or even earlier, say,within 20 years the most.
the sun also rises
Even in current History subject of our secondary school which in its form one syllabus concerning the topic:ancient Greek and Roman civilizations,it is clearly stated that in the ancient Greek state:Athens,there is 'one man,one vote' system for its people to choose their government officials. And all male citizens aged 20 or above enjoy the right to vote and to be elected.Athens is regarded and honoured to be the birthplace of western democracy which now western countries practise and most countries in the world follow suit except some autocratic countries led by the PRC and N.Korea and Cuba plus...a small bunch of others as well. This so-called 'whymak' (who claimed to have taught for a short period but I doubt that he is actually a hired writer:so-called fifty-cent gang member ) is a shame of local teachers/lecturers since he/she hasn't the knowledge of world history at form one level. He/She better go and get one textbook for reference before yelling meaninlessly here plus wrongly and impolitely accusing other Comment writer for his/her posting ! Okay ?
the sun also rises
According to history record, as early as 2000 years ago, in the Greek state, Athens, their leaders were elected through 'one man, one vote'. Every male citizen aged 20 or above got the right to vote for the posts in their government. The Athens state was ruled by people instead of a king (as in another state, Sparta).Athens is called and honoured as the birthplace of western democracy which is regarded as a universal value-----government by the people,of the people and for the people. Only when a government is elected by her people will it be responsible to them and their needs and demands.Once the leaders elected are found to be either corrupted (as Taiwan's Chen Shui-bien ) or incapable (as Taiwan's President Ma), the people can demand him/her to step down by votes instead of a bloody revolution or revolts. Democratic political system is by far the best political system in the world---that explains why more and more countries in the world are now practising democracy except Cuba,N.Korea, Iran and of course the PRC which is just a replica of the Qing Dynasty---the winner of the war,the ruler.Qing Dynasty was just replaced by the Party Dynasty.
whymak
Sorry, your story about Athens doesn't pass muster for a 6th grade essay! Get some more schooling.
johnyuan
From WSJ: ‘Against this, Mrs. Thatcher's record shows there are other ways to revive a broken economy. Through a radical program of structural overhauls based on free markets, a willingness to confront vested interests and a determination to scale back the state sector, she helped revitalize the U.K. Famously, her policies were denounced by 364 leading economists in 1981. But within five years, Britain was booming.’ Hong Kong’ economy has a big surplus in government’s accounting. Yet, the society is increasingly not at peace when compares with its past. Inequality in many aspects permeates Hong Kong creating wealth gathered in few hands include those of the government’s. People in Hong Kong seem to exist for the enrichment of the vested interests who desire even where, what and how people sleep, eat and work. Mrs. Thatcher’s courage to confront vested interests difficult as it may even for the government to reform, confronting other vested interests must follow. That is, a collusion culture must stop. As a world city, many doors in commerce should equally open to all. When cost of living becomes within reach and government’s big surplus disappears, I know life is better and there might be even a real booming economy in Hong Kong. So yes, young and old will all press the Government to shape up.
johnyuan
Thatch will remain controversial of her work as a prime minister. Since she ran such a long career, inconsistency in her policy and belief is inevitable. So pick what you like for or against. I like what I read in WSJ: ‘Through a radical program of structural overhauls based on free markets, a willingness to confront vested interests …. But within five years, Britain was booming.’’ So UK was revitalized.

Absolutely C Y Leung can use that for Hong Kong ?
whymak
To reader "rsallen"
We are talking about using FALSIFIABLE hypotheses and empirical method as an approach to TRUTH. Your persistent use and mindless regurgitation of brainwashed, half-baked knowledge of the great Western Civilization, of which I am also a long standing member, is duly noted.
Of course the measurement of prison population is far from the normative -- what ought to be -- definition of human rights. Of course, like all hypotheses, mine will be subject to challenge and someone will come up with something better. One thing I won't allow is bovine defecation statements of non-fact facts without measurements.
First, one must state the hypothesis and supporting measurements if one wishes to get closer to the TRUTH. Remember, all hypotheses are falsifiable.
By quoting all this UN dogmatic gibberish -- thank Heavens without the circular, self-referencing Human Rights Index of sanctimonious, self-righteous ideologues, you have demonstrated a total lack of understanding of the scientific method, independent investigative spirit and judgment.
My advice to you is exactly the same to some readers of this column: Go back to school and get an education.
You are likely to flunk a freshman course taught by me that requires critical inquiry.
sudouest
We need to couple with a Bayesian way. Much like whether today is going to rain or not, cannot be tested more than once, we can't put humans in a test-tube subjected to danger, and perform Karl Popper's falsification ways. But history offers us a chance to study / post-mortem what and why has been chosen / done, given XYZ factors, and what can be avoided.
whymak
We have a lot to talk about. Presumably, in all random processes indexed by time and described by states, the transition from one state to the next is already Bayesian in a manner of speaking. Popper's philosophy, though trivial, is relevant because the discovery of dynamical laws follows the scientific method and continuously pushes ahead the frontier.
Thus the known physical law determines the probability (amplitude) of all random paths to be averaged (Feynman path integrals). The full blown glory of physics is hard to be described in just a few words.
In historical events -- assume one has a way to describe states in the state space, just like in stock markets, earthquakes, etc., we have only the sample realization of a random process. The processes are not ergodic. We cannot talk meaningfully about ensemble averages. Without known laws, we can't talk about the transitional probabilities between two points in unknown paths. Past history cannot be used to predict the future.
We find many applications with Markov chain, memoryless random processes, which have limited use of conditional probabilities in transitional matrices.
Many principles can be used to construct synthetic financial products and derivatives.
Enough. With democratic airheads in this column less educated than a Form 2 student, it is like 對牛彈琴.
whymak
I never had one single verbally abusive college student in my brief teaching career, not even from those receiving failing grades.
I gave a solid example, which one reader didn’t appreciate, that with use of logic and reason, one could accomplish wonderful things. One could teach Form 2 students without attention deficit disorder to program computers and networks - an infinitely easier task than teaching English.
Just imagine with only 3 logic constructs in simple language syntax, one could design instructions from as simple as turning on/off automatically a thermostat to as complicated as finding the best valued bottle of wine within a mile radius for tonight's dinner.
With diligence and patience, children can learn this skill well enough to make a decent living. If they are creative and willing to take the risk of being unemployed, they have a shot at becoming Gates or Zuckerberg.
Hong Kong morons encourage kids to tackle ideology instead of useful skills.
If “democracy” is decomposed into its logical elements, their quadrillion combinations will overwhelm any intellect. Imbeciles take the easy way out by accepting a single dogma – universal suffrage.
the sun also rises
travel widely, read more, start a business elsewhere then come back to fight for democracy which sounds that it is the most practical way to gain our promised universal suffrage.**** indeed ! I dare say.Obviously,this Alex Lo is not for democracy himself.I wonder if he has travelled widely in the past 41 years(including 25 years under the not-so-competent British colonists whose subjects never demanded much but appeared gentle and obedient) and whether he has read widely himself including books on democracy in ancient Greek state:Athens( which is over 2000 years ago !) Starting a business elsewhere and practise entrepreneurship before coming back to ask for democracy.If Alex Lo himself has experienced all the above stages,why doesn't he strive for democracy together with our ideal and democratic-minded youngsters now and here in Hong Kong,may I ask ? Alex Lo's ideas of democracy sounds more or less like that old guy in town:Lau Nai-keung who keeps on barking at local democrats in both Chinese newspapers and SCMP as well !
whymak
"whether he (Alex Lo) has read widely himself including books on democracy in ancient Greek state:Athens( which is over 2000 years ago !) "
So there is another Athens democracy expert besides the one in Mr. Michael Chugani column. In that case, maybe you should hear what I have to say about Athens:
****www.scmp.com/comment/insight-opinion/article/1207867/democrats-must-focus-what-universal-suffrage-can-do-hong#comment-16058
johnyuan
Giving a reality one can make a good living as a property agent, why wouldn’t you be one? Some years ago when I returned to Hong Kong, I got my flat through a property agent who worked most efficiently. No, I was taken aback when I learned she graduated from one of the best schools in Hong Kong. While I fault my feeling for being judgmental, there must be something I missed on the reality of Hong Kong: a graduate from an elite school working as a property agent whose challenge was just to get me a flat.
I continue since then to tell everyone in Hong Kong that you may deserve more what reality in Hong Kong can give you.
In a swap of today’s My Take, I would support Alex and ask the young in Hong Kong to accept risk as part of growing up.
John Adams
Alex : Amen and AMEN
I think you know who I am
anotherguy
I understand such an article definitely stirred some feathers but putting aside some personal judgment for the article, there is still some truths from it. Young has to think beyond HK sometimes if there are some limitations that are definitely to difficult to overcome in a short time. Like it or not, the problems we face today will not disappear in a short span of time. Meanwhile, if the young wants to make things happen, they need to look elsewhere rather than wasting themselves away just because circumstances don't go their ways. Can't they go to Singapore or China or India and return home to contribute when they strike it rich and have more ammunition to make a difference. Or are they only counting on HK to please their ways? Even US is going to disappoint many youngsters of this generation no matter how great they have been in the past. Face it, sometimes, bad times happen and a lost century is nothing in the scheme of human history.
wwong888
also alex. do some research before you write stuff. note that other markets are having issues with milk powder. i know its hard. drivel is easier. we are here to help.
The FT reports, “Supermarkets as far afield as the UK and Australia have been forced to ration infant formula due to rampant Chinese demand for foreign-made baby milk. The frenzy for formula has forced governments to step in. Hong Kong, where shelves of formula are regularly cleared by mainland visitors, introduced curbs at customs in February. This month UK supermarket chains such as Wm Morrison, J Sainsbury, Asda and Tesco began restricting customers to two tins of infant milk formula at a time. “This is being done at the request of the manufacturers, who believe it’s possible that some organised groups of customers are buying up products in unusually large quantities for export,” said Richard Dodd,of the British Retail Consortium. Jo Newbould, spokesperson for the Asda supermarket chain, said, “We have been asked to implement a two per customer cap by our baby milk supplier, Danone.”
wwong888
also, since the govn't controls land supply, sadly we do need to rely on them to address housing prices. how should the govn't not be involved in resolving the supply-demand imbalance? alex, you just drivel nonsense. go back on holiday and never come back.
SpeakFreely
Land is killing Hk I agree. There is no incentive for any existing or startup biz in Hk as land is too expensive. If you own a old shop say wan ton noodle you will close it due to hi rent or better cash in if u own the property. Even for conglomerates, they raised billions during dot com, remember? They basically not doing any tech but just put the money into property related projects.
On another note, the culture in Hk is very hard to encourage risk taking. If u look at the top few success in Hitech such as Jobs, Gate, Larry Ellison, and Mark Z, they are all college drop out from Harvard and stanford alike. there were many drop outs tried doing something similar but failed and not reported for sure. Have u ever heard of a hku drop out building his biz successfully? I've not heard off. Our culture and parents won't allow this happening.
SpeakFreely
If u look at Mark Z u will see his mentality is different. He is from a middle class family father is a dentist and mom is a lawyer if I am not mistaken. He could have asked the money from his parents when he started Facebook but he didn't. Before Facebook IPO already someone offering us$2 B to buy it but he refused. I don't think there is such a culture or mentality here in our young generation or even in my generation. I think we have a lot of smart people here but I'm sure there is no such a mentality of Mark Z alike. That's why we don't have Mark Z, Jobs, etc but we have Mr. Li type of biz man.
wwong888
why is fighting for democracy and better governance incompatible with taking personal career risks? if you look at successful business people outside of hong kong, they are also the ones with strong views on governance? hong kong businessmen don't speak up because the current crony capitalism is in their interest. alex, you are a horrible commentator. what risks have you taken? you write a crummy column for the scmp. you are sucking up to the current adminstration and china on orders from the scmp owner who has significant business interests in china. you are the coward.
sudouest
I agree with you. It's so easy to blame on someone else, rather than ourselves. When we have no individuals to blame, we blame the government. Rather than nagging away, we should be more self-reliance, self-reflecting and support the community and the country to move forward. Blaming doesn't help anyone to move forward.
Nowadays, I talk to the youngs. I seldom hear about opening a business, be an entrepreneur, stand on their own feet. Instead, I hear "I want to work for multi-nationals XYZ", "Get my degree and look for a job". On one occasion, when I ask them: "Well, if everyone starts looking for a job, who create those jobs ????". And they kept silent, embarassed, trying to look away, trying to avoid continuing with the topic.
tennisboy
Hong Kong's youth have chosen to protest because it is the easier way to gain attention upon themselves (and a brief moment of fame). All they have to do is grab a sign, lie on the streets, hurl obscenities to officials; and there is a good chance they will be shown on the nightly news. This gives them a sense of importance in society; a sense of accomplishment. On the other hand, if you start a business, you actually have to use your brain and rely on yourself and your finances-- there is no one to blame but yourself for any failures. The youth of today will rather choose the easier way to gain fame.
SpeakFreely
"Instead of starting a business in a burst of entrepreneurial creativity à la Steve Jobs or Mark Zuckerberg, many young people either want to join big corporations or the government on a fast track to senior management - and/or protest for democracy. What they all have in common is that they take no risk. "Alex, Hk history had taught people that low tech, such as property development, is the best money maker. Hk top 10 or 100 richest are all property related, i thjnk. In US, none of the rich are from property, almost. Even in Silicon Valley, property are considered expensive but not at speculative level as money are diverted to innovation. vC invested almost the same amount we IPo in Hk into siclicon valley yearly to create new venturs. In HK there is almost zero money coming from VC invested in local startups.
whymak
To Democratic Airheads
First you have to define democracy. Other than the universal suffrage dogma, what else can you say about democracy? Okay, you say something like human rights. Again, I will ask you to define it.
Then you give me nothing but irrelevant counter examples why China is such a bad country because it jails reporters and lawyers. I concede your information is factual. So I take your definition, the rate of incarceration - the rate of prison population per 100,000 - to be the empirical evidence.
Sorry to tell you, the US puts 6 times as many people in penal colony as PRC. If we carry this Socratic dialogue further, you will end up agreeing the country with lesser violation of human rights is the more democratic.
Some dumb readers in this column may not realize being jailed is the most definitive measure for violation of human rights. I grant you that democratic airheads with nothing but dogmas and jargons have no measurements.
So if social malcontents are on the wrong side of the law, who says their human rights should be less than a lawyer or reporter? Isn't this a tenet of democracy too?
Society is never perfect. Some will be jailed due to noncompliance with the law. A quantifiable prison population is as good a measure for human rights and democracy.
I am here not to defend China but to point out how hubristic brainwashed Hong Kongers are.
I learned critical inquiry at HK SJC. Reductio ad absurdum is useful in throwing out false hypotheses.
wwong888
if this is the logic they taught you at SJC, then I definitely need to look into other schools for my children... this example of using the rate of incarceration to define level of democracy and human rights should be used as textbook example of inductive reasoning gone horribly wrong... well in this case more specifically how a commie airhead can apply inductive reasoning to conclude a human born in china today has greater freedoms than one born in the united states... sorry mate, try again...
whymak
"if this is the logic they taught you at SJC, then I definitely need to look into other schools for my children."
From what you're telling us, you couldn't have passed your Form 2 geometry, let alone School Cert. I feel sorry for your children.
whymak
Just being curious, did you pass Form 2 Euclidean geometry in Hong Kong? Proof by contradiction is a gold standard. Name calling will not hide your ignorance.
rsallen
"Some dumb readers in this column may not realize being jailed is the most definitive measure for violation of human rights."
What absolute nonsense. This comment classically illustrates the old point that,"A little learning is a dangerous thing."
Obviously it would be stupid to use raw data for numbers imprisoned as a measure of how well a society upholds human rights; it depends entirely what they're in prison for. A society that incarcerates so many of its citizens and disproportionately high numbers of certain racial groups, clearly has serious problems. But it is facile to suggest that it is more oppressive than an state that routinely imprisons people for criticising the government.
If you want to define human rights, look at the Universal Declaration adopted by the UN in 1948. Article 21 states:
"(1) Everyone has the right to take part in the government of his country, directly or through freely chosen representatives.
(2) Everyone has the right of equal access to public service in his country.
(3) The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government; this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret vote or by equivalent free voting procedures."
You read it all here. ****www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/index.shtml
whymak
We are talking about using FALSIFIABLE hypotheses and empirical method as an approach to TRUTH. Your persistent use and mindless regurgitation of brainwashed, half-baked knowledge of the great Western Civilization, of which I am also a long standing member, is duly noted.
Of course the measurement of prison population is far from the normative -- what ought to be -- definition of human rights. Of course, like all hypotheses, mine will be subject to challenge and someone will come up with something better. One thing I won't allow is bovine defecation statements of non-fact facts without measurements.
First, one must state the hypothesis and supporting measurements if one wishes to get closer to the TRUTH. Remember, all hypotheses are falsifiable.
By quoting all this UN dogmatic gibberish -- thank Heavens without the circular, self-referencing Human Rights Index of sanctimonious, self-righteous ideologues, you have demonstrated a total lack of understanding of the scientific method, independent investigative spirit and judgment.
My advice to you is exactly the same to some readers of this column: Go back to school and get an education.
You are likely to flunk a freshman course taught by me that requires critical inquiry.
the sun also rises
I wonder whether this guy 'whymak' has really learnt something useful (if he/she was lucky enough) at his/her school and whether he/she had worked hard in his/her schooldays since he/she just cannot express himself/herself in a simple and clear way here in this public forum at all ! This Alex Lo prefers to mislead the ignorant youngsters by saying that they enjoy much freer life than those countries which enjoying full democracy.He implies that our pursuit of a full democracy is meaningless or useless since a true democracy can never bring more freedom or richness to us. Just look at our compatriots across the border, do they have got any freedoms of speech or press as us ? Of course not ! Are most of them struggling for a democratic political system ? No again.Yet more and mroe of them are now enjoying a freer(compared with decades ago) and much richer lives than before ! This is what Alex Lo is going to tell our youngsters---or misleading them by his evasive words !
sudouest
I feel like the society is separated into the teacher group and the student group. The former having experience, the latter having ideals.
I totally agree with Alex Lo thoughts. In fact, try and go out to the world and set up your industry, and when you have your knowledge and experience, come back and talk in a TED talk or something.
And to add to this: 'whymak' has much more knowledge than any of us. Open up your mind dude.
XYZ
Good advice on risk taking. Poor advice on standing up for democracy. Young people should do both.
johnyuan
“Young man and woman, take real risks! Travel the world, read widely, strike out on your own, start a business (in another city with low rents). Then come back and fight for democracy.’ I almost have nothing to add when Alex wrote his conclusion that took those words or rather my thought out of my mouth. I will add a deadly comment to it that there is no space in Hong Kong for you to take risk -- not at the second highest rent in the world; not in your shoebox flat and not in the complete occupied of opportunity by the existing order of the privileged. Last but not the least, parents should let go of their children. Free them from the bondage of the property culture in Hong Kong.
whymak
Amen! Let me ask those academics, pseudo intellectuals and media airheads who persist in proselytizing democracy -- to me one of the most difficult philosophical topics, if they have the ability to think clearly and logically like an intelligent 8th grader, who has little trouble in writing a simple computer program that works.
If they can't, these social malcontents and discontents are capable of one thing only: vaporware.
My advice to these soreheads in addition to yours is go back to school and learn something useful.
 
 
 
 
 

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