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PUBLISHED : Monday, 15 April, 2013, 12:00am
UPDATED : Monday, 15 April, 2013, 2:33am

Focus fight on who picks the candidates for chief executive

"I have simply grasped the one thread which links up all the rest."

Hu Shih, the father of Chinese democratic liberalism, began his classic, The Development of the Logical Method in Ancient China, with this quote from Confucius.

In dealing with complex issues, the sage advises, look for that underlying issue to illuminate and move things forward. The escalating war of words between the pan-democrats and mainland officials has generated more heat than light. The poisoned rhetoric from both sides has not changed the political realities; it has merely confused the key issues.

Now, a few individuals on both sides have started to make more sensible noises.

Law professor Benny Tai Yiu-ting who came up with the Occupy Central protest plan said over the weekend that we should focus on the composition of the nominating committee that will select candidates for the 2017 chief executive race. That's exactly right. The committee's composition is where the real battleground for universal suffrage will be.

Tai is not the first to point this out. It was, in fact, Alan Hoo, SC, head of the Basic Law Institute, who first called on the pan-democrats to focus on that after various mainland officials said any CE candidates must love Hong Kong and the motherland and never challenge the central government. But Hoo is friendly to Beijing. Hopefully, Tai will be more persuasive with his pan-democratic colleagues.

All the charges and counter-charges about patriotism and the screening of candidates just confuse the issue. They boil down to one question: who will sit on the nominating committee?

Beijing will want it to resemble the current 1,200-member election committee, which is selected by less than 250,000 voters and mostly drawn from sectors that replicate the rotten boroughs of the functional constituencies.

Pan-dems like Tai will want the new committee membership to be returned by a popular vote.

The future committee will have to be much more representative electorally than the election committee. But it's just a non-starter to demand giving everyone a vote on its membership.

Let's just hope cooler heads will prevail on both sides and start putting viable proposals on the negotiating table.


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hard times !
if pflim040 has hypocritcal view on democracy (which is a universal value all over the free world except in those autocartic countries like N.Korea,Cuba and our great China !), then how about your view on democracy ? You are against a democratic political system here in Hong Kong ! Right ? 'Occupy Central' is just a civil-disobedience movement only, why do you object it and yell time and again against it ! You are the slave-servant of your autocratic master !
hard times !
another sock puppet of pflim040 ? How about you yourself ? Another sock puppet of your team which is sent here to monitor our postings on the internet ? Shame on you and your colleagues who are paid to do such nasty jobs !
hard times !
if pflim040 is a hypocrite as you this disguised Hongkonger said, then how can he/she continues to write his/her views here again and again supporting a geniune universal suffrage and the civil-disobedience movement,' Occupy Central'. 'bluechinagroup' is actually 'redchinagroup'.---a guy of a team sent here to monitor our postings on the internet and social websites and attack those pro-democracy people such as pflim040 who stauchly support a true democracy day and night here in this Comment column.Go and see Marx,bluechinagroup ! He is waiting for you !
hard times !
pflim040 is a racist just because he has once criticized the Indian wrter (a local journalist and host of TV programs),Mr.Michael Chugami's words on our upcoming universal suffrage in 2017 for our election of our chief executive ? How biased your opinions against this nice guy named pflim040 is ! Shame on you and your lousy English ! Go home and study hard (in English of course) before coming back here to bark at our beloved writer; so-called pflim040 or all his usernames(pen-names).Okay ?
hard times !
agree with Alex Lo this time that all questions /issues boil down to one question only: who will sit on the Nominating Committee which is to choose our chief executive in 2017 ? If the Committee members are chosen by 'one man,one vote' then any screening mechanism or so-called 'a primary poll' is absolutely unnecessary since the members can fully represent all qualified voters in town to choose the leader for them----so-called broadly representative !
hard times !
of course,Beijing would like the upcoming so-called Nominating Committee to resemble the current 1,200-member election committee,(of which some members were chosen by this Old Hong Kong as well) which is selected by less than 250,000 voters in town and most of them drawn from sectors that replicate the rotten boroughs of the functional constituencies now exist but have long been gruntled upon. Pan-dems like professor Tai will want the new Nominationg Committee membership to be returned by a popular vote----all qualified voters can have the chance to choose their favourite Nominating Committee members to reflect their wishes/choices. Anyway,we were told by C.Y.Leung that the new Nominating Committee will be more progressive than the past Election Committee.Just wait and see how broadly representative it will turn out to be !
This is pflim040 posting yet again under a new name. Why not just post your opinions all under one username? How is this not any different than vote rigging or astro-turfing? You're trying to create the appearance of massive Occupy Central support on the forums by rotating your username.

Also I very much doubt that you were able to vote in members of the election committee. You sound like an extremely delusional and misguided young person.
hard times !
This bluechinagroup (actually should be written as 'redchinagroup') is not a single guy in town but a team member of a group sent here to monitor we Hongkongers' words on the internet only. Am I right ? ha ! ha !
hard times !
Cooler heads will prevail and start putting viable proposals on the negotiating table between the pan-democarcy camp (now led by Professor,Tai Yiu-ting and supported by all 27 pan-democrat lawmakers) and Beijing loyalists ( represented by their heavyweights Ng Hon-man,Leung Oi-see,Tam Wai-chu and ...) may sound like a daydream as the dispute has escalated into heated arguments and finger-pointings at opponents at public forums or accusations of Han /Hong Kong traitors against political rivals emerged.How can a peaceful negotiation be held in the coming years before 2017 ? I wonder.
hard times !
bluechinagroup is not a single person but a group sent from the North here to monitor we Hongkongese's postings in the forums of local media-----just like what is described in the novel, '1984'------big brother is watching you ! Now our freedom of expression is being threatened by these guys who keep an eye on us and our words expressed which used to be free and without fear ! As Professor Tai once said, what is important is the formation of the Nominating Committee and never the screening scheme or a primary poll ! To represent most Hongkongers (the qualified voters), the Committee members should better be elected through a direct election just like our election of the district councillors or Legco members from the geographical constituency.




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