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Why living in Hong Kong as mainland Chinese is no piece of cake

PUBLISHED : Tuesday, 21 May, 2013, 12:38pm
UPDATED : Wednesday, 29 May, 2013, 10:38am

Joy Yang first wrote in Chinese about her experience as a person from the mainland living in Hong Kong. Her story was a hit on Weibo and sparked heated discussion. She has translated her article into English to share with SCMP readers.

We constantly hear Hong Kong locals complain about people who visit from the mainland and buy up milk powder or take up space in maternity wards, but rarely are the voices of those from the mainland heard.

My first impression of Hong Kong was not a good one. I was part of a batch of 28 undergraduates who had arrived from top universities on the mainland to study at the University of Hong Kong in 1999. I was 18 and excited about starting an adult life in the “Pearl of the Orient”, with its fancy shops, pop stars and legends of successful businessmen.

This excitement was soon replaced by anger and disappointment. A few days after arriving, a tutor at the hall of residence and a local female student came to my room and asked if they could search it. The girl said her mobile phone had been stolen. They rummaged through our bags then left with no apologies. But it was clearly written on their faces what they were thinking: “Where the hell are these two poor mainland girls hiding my mobile phone?”

I felt angry, but, sadly, it was not the last time this would happen. When something went missing in the hall of residence, the mainland students were always the first ones, and for most of the time the only ones, to be suspected. What was particularly insulting was that most of the suspected stolen items were insignificant - a slice of cheese or a bottle of milk. Yes, China’s per-capita GDP was low, but were we so poor in those locals’ eyes that even an orange was worth stealing?

After such bad experiences, I was always ready to strike back whenever I felt insulted or discriminated against. One time a local asked for my help on her class project comparing Hong Kong with Shanghai. Her first question was whether there was karaoke in Shanghai. Such an ignorant question offended my big Shanghainese ego. And when she asked about the living conditions there, I answered, with full arrogance: “My home in Shanghai was more than 1,000 square feet. How big is your home in Hong Kong?”

I did not make many good friends with local students at first, but I did not care. I don’t have to blend into the local culture, I told myself.

Sooner or later, those Hongkongers will recognise that mainland China is no longer a poor country, and we will influence the world with our growing economic and political power – more than Hong Kong does. So why should I care about blending into the local culture?

I could have kept “fighting” like that until one incident changed me.

After many conflicts I had with local students, the student union decided to kick me out of the hall of residence. The last straw, I believed, was when I defended a mainland tutor at a meeting and argued that her critics were discriminating against mainlanders. The mainlanders are my ally, and Hongkongers are our common enemy – I truly believed it at that time.

But when the student union labelled me as a troublemaker, not only did the tutor not speak out for me as I did for her, but she also turned her back on me.

“Who asked her to fight with the local students?” she told others behind my back. I felt betrayed.

I started losing hope that I would find a place to live until a Hong Kong tutor called me to say that the hall of residence had decided to give me another chance. She said some locals had argued that I was simply from a different culture and that the hall should welcome different views.

I was shocked when I heard that.

Betrayed by my ally only to be saved by my enemy - that completely changed my mentality. I became more receptive to local culture. More locals said they were eager to learn from me about the mainland, and I apologised to them, admitting that I had been too extreme in the past.

What I want to say is simple: blending into Hong Kong’s local culture is not that difficult, if we have the right attitude. That is what I learned 10 years ago. I left Hong Kong in 2002 for graduate school in the US, with full appreciation of what Hong Kong had taught me, both academically and non-academically.

But life is always more complicated than we think. I returned to Hong Kong in 2011, after studying and working in the US for nine years. Nowadays in Hong Kong, I find that blending into the local culture is not as simple as 10 years ago.

I started noticing the rapidly changing dynamics between locals and mainlanders from afar.

For example, HKU offers one-year exchange programmes for its undergraduates to study abroad. Students are selected based on academic performance and extra-curriculum activities. Each year we received about four to five HKU students in Los Angeles, and usually three or four of them were students originally from the mainland.

This had to do with the rising population of mainland students in Hong Kong. Back in my day, the economics department only had three to four mainland students. We got As most of the time, but plenty of As were left for local students. Today the economics department has about 20 to 30 mainland students, and when they get most of the As, as I heard from a HKU professor, a B is the best that a local student can hope for.

It’s not about who is smarter. After all, one is selected from a population of 1.4 billion and the other is from a population of seven million. Even though universities are supposed to be a place for fair competition, it is understandable why many Hong Kong students dislike their mainland peers. Ten years ago we “stole” apples and milk; today we “steal” As in class.

The younger generation from the mainland constantly outperforms locals in other aspects too. They score high in exams, participate in social activities and even speak better English than many local students. “We invited investment bankers to give seminars on campus,” an HKU professor said, “and after, all the mainland students rushed to socialise with the speaker, handed in their resumes and asked for internship opportunities, while many local students just hid themselves in the back rows.”

My speculation that Hongkongers felt threatened by mainlanders was confirmed when I returned in 2011. Yes, there are more mainlanders in Hong Kong than ever, and Hong Kong has never been this close to its motherland. But if you think that made my life here easier, you are wrong. Locals are rejecting mainland people and culture harder than before.

That’s why I realise that having a happy life in Hong Kong is no longer as simple as having the right attitude. It is harder to blend into the local culture than 10 years ago because the pushback from local people is harder than ever. This view is probably not shared by some of my mainland peers living in Hong Kong. Some of them do not think it necessary to blend into the local culture. “I earn more money than most of the Hongkongers” and “I always ask them to speak Putonghua to me”, one of my Beijing friends said with pride.

Resistance from locals is particularly obvious in two areas – the financial sector and the working class. The lack of transparency and the unique Chinese culture are often challenging for foreigners working in the Chinese market. Top investment banks and hedge funds prefer to hire mainlanders – over Hongkongers, ABCs and Westerners – for their China business knowledge. In Central, Putonghua is becoming a popular language, not only in shopping malls, but also in offices.

Working-class people are probably the ones who are mostly affected and, to some extent, squeezed. They face shortages of milk powder and of hospital beds, and a crowded Ocean Park - I would complain too if I were a local.

The problem is not unique to Hong Kong. Beijingers and Shanghainese complain about new migrants in their cities too. It’s all about competition for limited social welfare. In some aspects, Hong Kong is worse off. At least for a baby born in Shanghai or Beijing, she is not qualified for a hukou [residency permit] in the city if neither parent has one. But in Hong Kong, any child born here would automatically get access to the social welfare system – even if their parents are not permanent Hong Kong residents.

So who should be blamed for the rising tension between Hong Kong and the mainland? In my view, some Hong Kong media could take more responsibility. They could be fairer and stop reporting biased stories for the sake of boosting sales. The central government should also take more decisive actions to solve its food safety problem, so that mainland mums do not have to travel to Hong Kong for milk powder. Joint efforts by Hong Kong people, mainlanders, media and government will make the city a friendlier place to study, work and live.


I’d like to ask a question to end my story: nowadays in Hong Kong, should I speak Putonghua or Cantonese when I go shopping? I tried once to speak Cantonese in the Harbour City shopping mall, but the saleswoman turned away and greeted other mainland shoppers with her fluent Putonghua. I then tried to speak Putonghua at another store in Causeway Bay and received good service. But when I decided to leave without buying any shoes, the salesperson’s face went dark. She asked angrily: “Why you don’t buy? They are so cheap! And it’s another 20 per cent off if you pay with RMB!” I realised finally that it’s not about language; it’s all about your wallet.

Joy Yang is from Shanghai. She studied at the University of Hong Kong and at the University of California, Los Angeles in the US. She worked in Washington DC as an economist for the International Monetary Fund and now works in the financial industry in Hong Kong.


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I work at a University, Mainland student's English is rarely better than local HK students...at least that's my experience....HK people DO feel threatened by Mainland people, however it is not for the reasons this person mentions, it is due to the aggressive behavior they display...this ranges from consumer behavior, to how they interact in public spaces.
"this article is come from a secondary school student"
I wonder if this comment "is come" from a kindergarten student. Don't be critical of others before being critical of yourself, please.
Too many mainlanders in Hong Kong are the living, walking and talking product of the morally corrupt mainland system, i.e. part of the Party's in-crowd, the power elite who incarcerate people without a fair trial, for expressing honestly-held but unwelcome views. We are bound to look upon these visitors with suspicion, particularly those most well-heeled, as recent history has shown beyond doubt that most of them gained their wealth by ripping off the working class through Party connection in the most horrendous fashion. In contrast, at least a reasonable portion of Hong Kong's successes got there through genuine toil, creativity and/or talent. Not so for the mainlanders. If they came from a decent system, we would welcome them with open arms and have little to see by way of clash of viewpoint. Change the system, gain respect.
The truth in this article for me was the understanding that Joy received which resulted in her staying in the dorm. It would have been nice for Joy to preach that type of upstanding morality and understanding to the masses. Excellent! I feel that's just what's needed between the two peoples. Except the article falls off telling Hong Kongers why they are disliked, how they are becoming inferior, and then blames the problem on corporations and governments.
This article may be of proper English and (mostly) free of errors. But instead of bringing any type of meaningful analysis to the HK/mainland situation, it adds more reasons for HK people to believe the mainland Chinese are not as smart as they think they are, and sadly, miles away from understanding why they are disliked.
The group of Hong Kong people that react passively socially and not open minded enough only represent a certain percentage of the population and don't necessarily set the standards of what Hong Kong people are like. The elite group of Hong Kong people that have studied abroad and speak fluent English and not afraid to confront and stand up for themselves for any sort of situations and uphold the social fairness are the gold standards that everyone either foreigner or mainlander should try to identify and interact with and build a sustainable relationship with. It's true that locals that are not too well off and brought up in a culturally enclosed environment do not have a choice and they accept the way they are, but isn't this the same everywhere in the world even in USA. So if one confronts unnecessary friction with locals, the smartest way is to make the extra effort in resolving differences or offer an extra bit of generosity than whining about it and building up more hate thoughts and generally feeling negative.
"Some of them do not think it necessary to blend into the local culture. “I earn more money than most of the Hongkongers” and “I always ask them to speak Putonghua to me”, one of my Beijing friends said with pride."
Dear Joy, that's a good example of the sort of behaviour and attitude locals are 'pushing harder' against. As long as some Mainlanders think of themselves as coming from the 'motherland' to 'little' Hong Kong, or think that increased income and GDP of the PRC will change HKers' attitudes to mainlanders in general, the opposition to the mainland and everything it represents will continue and become more fervent. The arrogance of your Beijing friend is inexcusable and perhaps says a lot about his character. It would appear he thinks himself better than the locals just because he earns a higher income. Contempt is not just a one-way thing with poor mainlanders being discriminated against by small-minded locals. It absolutely cuts the other way and everything I have heard from the way mainlanders talk about the Hong Kong Chinese over here (in Shanghai) suggests the same arrogance of China being the new up-and-coming power and the gloating over the growing integration (or loss of independence) of Hong Kong and its culture, as well as the sense that they should 'get in line' with the mainstream.
In the end, it's a too way issue. Locals should be more open minded and incidents like the ones you experienced during your early days in HK are sad and regrettable, but
John Adams
What Ms Joy Yang sincerely wrote is, sad to say, largely true in general. There IS prejudice against Mainlanders in HK , whether they were students in the late 1990's (like Ms Yang ) or tourists today.
No society likes sudden change and the sudden huge influx of Mainland Chinese in the past few years ( 9 million per month !) has been a paradigm shift for us HK-ers.

But happy to say, that's not the end of the story. I have spent the past 25 of my working life integrating our HK office staff with our Mainland office staff, with the successful result that there is now mutual affection and respect in every respect (in fact, I now give preference when recruiting HK staff to those who have lived and worked in China before) So it can be done by those who have an open mind and heart.
For HK-ers who choose to stay here: we all knew from 1984 onwards that in 1997 we would become part of China. So we must either accept the change and like it - or leave

And, as w2kwong correctly commented below - if anyone from the Mainland - or any other country for that matter - does not like it here, they are free to leave .
(I am sure Ms Yang is only working here because she can earn more here than in China - so yes it is indeed all about wallets .... on both sides ! )
Like it or leave it, nobody force you to stay. If you don't like HK you can go back to where you come from
"“I earn more money than most of the Hongkongers” and “I always ask them to speak Putonghua to me”, one of my Beijing friends said with pride."
The second part I can understand; if both parties know Putonghua and only one party knows Cantonese then of course you would use the language that's common. But to use Putonghua because you make more money than the other people??? How different is that from the arrogant discrimination you first faced in 1999 Ms Yang? I understand that it's your friend who is doing this but the article seem to portray you as condoning this type of thinking.
About your closing question. I face similar situations if I am pulled over by the police while driving or on my motorcycle (especially on my motorcycle since my face is covered by a helmet and people can't tell if I am Chinese); do I use English which a lot of my friends say will get me out of trouble since some constables don't want the hassle of dealing with a foreigner or do I use Chinese? I speak all 3 fluently but in my set of value system, I choose to speak Cantonese to the officer. Why? Because this is Hong Kong and the local language is Cantonese; I don't go to Canada and speak Chinese to the police officers to try to get out of trouble, so why should people do that in Hong Kong? I would rather get a ticket by speaking Cantonese than to be one of those people who try to abuse their language abilities.
So one should judge the usage of language NOT on money but on principle.
When you go to another country, you need to be humble and sadly this is not in the case of China people. Not only Hkers despise them, but there also many people from other countries despise them. I have met many rude China people during my visit to Hong Kong, but the Hkers were quite friendly to us. When we encountered problems at MTR stations, they tried to help us. I am not talking about MTR staffs but local citizens. When we couldn't find a eatery place, there was a couple who offered us to sit beside their table which earlier when we asked China people, they refused to give us the seats although they just placed their handbags on them. I hardly understand why Hkers agreed to be under China since there is a rising tension between Hkers and mainlanders. Please excuse on my ignorance. Another reason is because Hong Kong is a very small country just like Singapore where land is scarce. While China has a population of more than 1 billion. Singaporeans also feel threatened when 20% of their population is made up of foreign immigrants of China. Let's assume that 10% of China people are coming down to Hong Kong to buy milk powder, well that equals to 100 million people whereas Hong Kong has a population of 7 million. So of courThis is because in a society where resources are limited, people are afraid that their basic rights will be deprived.




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