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Why living in Hong Kong as mainland Chinese is no piece of cake

PUBLISHED : Tuesday, 21 May, 2013, 12:38pm
UPDATED : Wednesday, 29 May, 2013, 10:38am

Joy Yang first wrote in Chinese about her experience as a person from the mainland living in Hong Kong. Her story was a hit on Weibo and sparked heated discussion. She has translated her article into English to share with SCMP readers.

We constantly hear Hong Kong locals complain about people who visit from the mainland and buy up milk powder or take up space in maternity wards, but rarely are the voices of those from the mainland heard.

My first impression of Hong Kong was not a good one. I was part of a batch of 28 undergraduates who had arrived from top universities on the mainland to study at the University of Hong Kong in 1999. I was 18 and excited about starting an adult life in the “Pearl of the Orient”, with its fancy shops, pop stars and legends of successful businessmen.

This excitement was soon replaced by anger and disappointment. A few days after arriving, a tutor at the hall of residence and a local female student came to my room and asked if they could search it. The girl said her mobile phone had been stolen. They rummaged through our bags then left with no apologies. But it was clearly written on their faces what they were thinking: “Where the hell are these two poor mainland girls hiding my mobile phone?”

I felt angry, but, sadly, it was not the last time this would happen. When something went missing in the hall of residence, the mainland students were always the first ones, and for most of the time the only ones, to be suspected. What was particularly insulting was that most of the suspected stolen items were insignificant - a slice of cheese or a bottle of milk. Yes, China’s per-capita GDP was low, but were we so poor in those locals’ eyes that even an orange was worth stealing?

After such bad experiences, I was always ready to strike back whenever I felt insulted or discriminated against. One time a local asked for my help on her class project comparing Hong Kong with Shanghai. Her first question was whether there was karaoke in Shanghai. Such an ignorant question offended my big Shanghainese ego. And when she asked about the living conditions there, I answered, with full arrogance: “My home in Shanghai was more than 1,000 square feet. How big is your home in Hong Kong?”

I did not make many good friends with local students at first, but I did not care. I don’t have to blend into the local culture, I told myself.

Sooner or later, those Hongkongers will recognise that mainland China is no longer a poor country, and we will influence the world with our growing economic and political power – more than Hong Kong does. So why should I care about blending into the local culture?

I could have kept “fighting” like that until one incident changed me.

After many conflicts I had with local students, the student union decided to kick me out of the hall of residence. The last straw, I believed, was when I defended a mainland tutor at a meeting and argued that her critics were discriminating against mainlanders. The mainlanders are my ally, and Hongkongers are our common enemy – I truly believed it at that time.

But when the student union labelled me as a troublemaker, not only did the tutor not speak out for me as I did for her, but she also turned her back on me.

“Who asked her to fight with the local students?” she told others behind my back. I felt betrayed.

I started losing hope that I would find a place to live until a Hong Kong tutor called me to say that the hall of residence had decided to give me another chance. She said some locals had argued that I was simply from a different culture and that the hall should welcome different views.

I was shocked when I heard that.

Betrayed by my ally only to be saved by my enemy - that completely changed my mentality. I became more receptive to local culture. More locals said they were eager to learn from me about the mainland, and I apologised to them, admitting that I had been too extreme in the past.

What I want to say is simple: blending into Hong Kong’s local culture is not that difficult, if we have the right attitude. That is what I learned 10 years ago. I left Hong Kong in 2002 for graduate school in the US, with full appreciation of what Hong Kong had taught me, both academically and non-academically.

But life is always more complicated than we think. I returned to Hong Kong in 2011, after studying and working in the US for nine years. Nowadays in Hong Kong, I find that blending into the local culture is not as simple as 10 years ago.

I started noticing the rapidly changing dynamics between locals and mainlanders from afar.

For example, HKU offers one-year exchange programmes for its undergraduates to study abroad. Students are selected based on academic performance and extra-curriculum activities. Each year we received about four to five HKU students in Los Angeles, and usually three or four of them were students originally from the mainland.

This had to do with the rising population of mainland students in Hong Kong. Back in my day, the economics department only had three to four mainland students. We got As most of the time, but plenty of As were left for local students. Today the economics department has about 20 to 30 mainland students, and when they get most of the As, as I heard from a HKU professor, a B is the best that a local student can hope for.

It’s not about who is smarter. After all, one is selected from a population of 1.4 billion and the other is from a population of seven million. Even though universities are supposed to be a place for fair competition, it is understandable why many Hong Kong students dislike their mainland peers. Ten years ago we “stole” apples and milk; today we “steal” As in class.

The younger generation from the mainland constantly outperforms locals in other aspects too. They score high in exams, participate in social activities and even speak better English than many local students. “We invited investment bankers to give seminars on campus,” an HKU professor said, “and after, all the mainland students rushed to socialise with the speaker, handed in their resumes and asked for internship opportunities, while many local students just hid themselves in the back rows.”

My speculation that Hongkongers felt threatened by mainlanders was confirmed when I returned in 2011. Yes, there are more mainlanders in Hong Kong than ever, and Hong Kong has never been this close to its motherland. But if you think that made my life here easier, you are wrong. Locals are rejecting mainland people and culture harder than before.

That’s why I realise that having a happy life in Hong Kong is no longer as simple as having the right attitude. It is harder to blend into the local culture than 10 years ago because the pushback from local people is harder than ever. This view is probably not shared by some of my mainland peers living in Hong Kong. Some of them do not think it necessary to blend into the local culture. “I earn more money than most of the Hongkongers” and “I always ask them to speak Putonghua to me”, one of my Beijing friends said with pride.

Resistance from locals is particularly obvious in two areas – the financial sector and the working class. The lack of transparency and the unique Chinese culture are often challenging for foreigners working in the Chinese market. Top investment banks and hedge funds prefer to hire mainlanders – over Hongkongers, ABCs and Westerners – for their China business knowledge. In Central, Putonghua is becoming a popular language, not only in shopping malls, but also in offices.

Working-class people are probably the ones who are mostly affected and, to some extent, squeezed. They face shortages of milk powder and of hospital beds, and a crowded Ocean Park - I would complain too if I were a local.

The problem is not unique to Hong Kong. Beijingers and Shanghainese complain about new migrants in their cities too. It’s all about competition for limited social welfare. In some aspects, Hong Kong is worse off. At least for a baby born in Shanghai or Beijing, she is not qualified for a hukou [residency permit] in the city if neither parent has one. But in Hong Kong, any child born here would automatically get access to the social welfare system – even if their parents are not permanent Hong Kong residents.

So who should be blamed for the rising tension between Hong Kong and the mainland? In my view, some Hong Kong media could take more responsibility. They could be fairer and stop reporting biased stories for the sake of boosting sales. The central government should also take more decisive actions to solve its food safety problem, so that mainland mums do not have to travel to Hong Kong for milk powder. Joint efforts by Hong Kong people, mainlanders, media and government will make the city a friendlier place to study, work and live.


I’d like to ask a question to end my story: nowadays in Hong Kong, should I speak Putonghua or Cantonese when I go shopping? I tried once to speak Cantonese in the Harbour City shopping mall, but the saleswoman turned away and greeted other mainland shoppers with her fluent Putonghua. I then tried to speak Putonghua at another store in Causeway Bay and received good service. But when I decided to leave without buying any shoes, the salesperson’s face went dark. She asked angrily: “Why you don’t buy? They are so cheap! And it’s another 20 per cent off if you pay with RMB!” I realised finally that it’s not about language; it’s all about your wallet.

Joy Yang is from Shanghai. She studied at the University of Hong Kong and at the University of California, Los Angeles in the US. She worked in Washington DC as an economist for the International Monetary Fund and now works in the financial industry in Hong Kong.


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There is no right or wrong. I used to live in Beijing. People will give way to me because I am the Mrs. The outsiders (like us), knowing they behave more gracefully, know in no time that they're special. But maids would criticize me over my face saying: 'She's from Hong Kong and she doesn't know Chinese" when they chat with friends (at the playroom). They also look down on me because I raised my own children (since well to do Mrs. has ayis to handle everything and the teaching/ coaching part will be left to tutors). Locals will laugh when I say I am Chinese. When I buy vegetables in wet market and I have to pay even more than I paid in upscale grocery store (because they know I am different from my apparel). And I know if I were raped by a Caucasian someone will tell me to go home and close the case.
This is what I've found out: if one can't adapt to a foreign place, leave. I've lived in 4 major cities in my life with 3 of them more than 5 years. I can't say Beijing has brought me no fortune, but also to the expense of other qualities of life. But the least I can do is not to make a fool out of myself. So I don't whine.
I studied at CUHK (as an exchange student) at the same time Ms Yang was at HKU. I found myself hanging out largely with friends drawn from the small batch of students from the mainland.
There was definitely a degree of discrimination, though as an outsider I could hardly understand why. The students from the mainland seemed to me more polite, intelligent and interesting. Even back then, their English language skills were often superior to Hong Kong students (which definitely made our friendships easier). I never witnessed discrimination as blatant as what Ms Yang describes, but there was a lot of talking behind peoples' backs. After nine months of living together my roommate confided to me that he was originally from the mainland -- as if this was some kind of scandal to be ashamed of.
Many of these students remained in HK after graduation. Many more talented mainlanders have since joined them. This is undoubtedly a good thing for Hong Kong.
Nonetheless nowadays I understand and sympathize with HKers' antipathy towards the mainland and mainlanders. At the time of the handover everyone (including the central government) understood that mainlanders' access to Hong Kong would have to be severely restricted in order to avoid a stampede that would render the city unlivable. Now the stampede has come and HK has been reduced to a polluted, overcrowded shopping mall, with little chance of change thanks to entrenched business interests and an unaccountable government.
Ms. Yang, I enjoy reading your piece.
I started college in the US in 1958. The campus had an international atmosphere. I experienced no discrimination. Occasional condescension, yes.
I am ashamed of Hong Kong youths treated you so shabbily. We don't deserve the World City moniker when our behavior is no better than the US backwaters, the Confederate states in the 60s.
Of course, you are a compatriot. Your talents and perseverance are now in short supply in HK. Yes, you are an asset.
As for youthful "misbehavior" and abrasiveness grown out of a defense mechanism instinct against ostracism, I can understand.
I grew up with Romance of Three Kingdoms, Analects, Dreams of red Chamber, etc. Our HK children don't read that stuff any more. That's why they don't have a Chinese soul or identity.
Worse, our town is replete with incompetent academics 流口水博士 and pseudo intellectuals who are Democracy missionaries. Their shallowness in Western and Chinese culture is at the root of HK inferiority complex. Democracy has become a religion. HK believers are totally ignorant of enlightenment ideas of Locke and Hume that midwifed American democracy. Their be-all-end-all deity is universal suffrage, which can be linked to just about every dysfunctional governance today.
Even worse than the West, HKers don't have the foggiest about normative economics essential for national survival.
China is still a mess. Everything takes time. But we have a due process in place that chooses good leaders.
oh please, shake out your stereotypes and think. Yes, it is reasonable that you might suspect Ms. Yang has a strong family connection to get her into HKU and UCLA, but c'mon, she must be super strong academically and has superior presentation and interviews skills in order to land that IMF job in Washington DC. East cost companies don't recruit from west coast schools that much, and especially, after all, it is "only" UCLA.
You can't disregard her merit just like that. There are smart people coming from rich family and this calls genetics.
live with it ...even hongkies locals get discriminated by whites here in hk
It's an ugly contest between the prejudiced HKers and some uncouth Mainlanders. The truth is that most HKers are tolerant and most Mainlanders are civilised. It's the bigots in our midst and the irresponsible press that have been inciting hatred. So much so that the government caved in and introduced the baby formula legislation! That brought HK into disrepute amongst our compatriots. Ms. Yang, I hope your exposure to various cultures has enlightened you into becoming a good world citizen!! Welcome to HK again!
Quote: "After all, one is selected from a population of 1.4 billion and the other is from a population of seven million. Even though universities are supposed to be a place for fair competition, it is understandable why many Hong Kong students dislike their mainland peers."
“and after, all the mainland students rushed to socialise with the speaker, handed in their resumes and asked for internship opportunities, while many local students just hid themselves in the back rows.”
Comments: Many Hong Kong people doubt that the success of the mainland students comes from the background of their super parents or uncles instead of they are selected from a population of 1.4 billion. I am very interested to know more about the background of the author. It is good if the author can share some success stories of mainland students without a strong family background.
Many Hong Kong students have been fighting hard with mainland students for offers in investment banks or top tier financial institutions. Although we have a lot of Hong Kong students coming from middle-class family, but we doubt that the value is minimal compared with the power of mainland students' family background. I do want to remind mainland students not to underestimate the potential of Hong Kong students. Confronted with the challenges (no matter it is fair or not), Hong Kong students can only find their own ways to differentiate themselves in order to survive.
Many thanks for Ms Yang to voice her opinions on the issues between HKers and Mainlanders. It is very courageous of her to have done that. There are hidden prejudice and racism in HK, rather widespread but locals do not realize. The root of the problem is the media [may be i should be more specifc in saying it is the Chinese newspapers], and I can see the situation getting worse but not for the better. Fruity journalism is fueling hatred and bias every day, but nobody is doing anything about it. In Singapore, the Govt would have stepped in and sued these irresponsible journalists, but the GovHK is always hiding at the back.
I am neither Chinese or Hkers, but wouldn't be fair to say that while Chinese visit the little Hong Kong, Hong Kong always think that they are visited by little rude Chinese? I think the real issue as mentionned in the article is that Hong Kong has much much better, hospital, universities and food safety and now has the pressure of 1,4 billion people who would like to get access to it. At some point Hong kong has to protect its resources for its residents.
Is that a case of two wrongs making a right? Or are you happy to live in a place where people treat each other with insensitivity and intolerance?



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