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Why living in Hong Kong as mainland Chinese is no piece of cake

PUBLISHED : Tuesday, 21 May, 2013, 12:38pm
UPDATED : Wednesday, 29 May, 2013, 10:38am

Joy Yang first wrote in Chinese about her experience as a person from the mainland living in Hong Kong. Her story was a hit on Weibo and sparked heated discussion. She has translated her article into English to share with SCMP readers.

We constantly hear Hong Kong locals complain about people who visit from the mainland and buy up milk powder or take up space in maternity wards, but rarely are the voices of those from the mainland heard.

My first impression of Hong Kong was not a good one. I was part of a batch of 28 undergraduates who had arrived from top universities on the mainland to study at the University of Hong Kong in 1999. I was 18 and excited about starting an adult life in the “Pearl of the Orient”, with its fancy shops, pop stars and legends of successful businessmen.

This excitement was soon replaced by anger and disappointment. A few days after arriving, a tutor at the hall of residence and a local female student came to my room and asked if they could search it. The girl said her mobile phone had been stolen. They rummaged through our bags then left with no apologies. But it was clearly written on their faces what they were thinking: “Where the hell are these two poor mainland girls hiding my mobile phone?”

I felt angry, but, sadly, it was not the last time this would happen. When something went missing in the hall of residence, the mainland students were always the first ones, and for most of the time the only ones, to be suspected. What was particularly insulting was that most of the suspected stolen items were insignificant - a slice of cheese or a bottle of milk. Yes, China’s per-capita GDP was low, but were we so poor in those locals’ eyes that even an orange was worth stealing?

After such bad experiences, I was always ready to strike back whenever I felt insulted or discriminated against. One time a local asked for my help on her class project comparing Hong Kong with Shanghai. Her first question was whether there was karaoke in Shanghai. Such an ignorant question offended my big Shanghainese ego. And when she asked about the living conditions there, I answered, with full arrogance: “My home in Shanghai was more than 1,000 square feet. How big is your home in Hong Kong?”

I did not make many good friends with local students at first, but I did not care. I don’t have to blend into the local culture, I told myself.

Sooner or later, those Hongkongers will recognise that mainland China is no longer a poor country, and we will influence the world with our growing economic and political power – more than Hong Kong does. So why should I care about blending into the local culture?

I could have kept “fighting” like that until one incident changed me.

After many conflicts I had with local students, the student union decided to kick me out of the hall of residence. The last straw, I believed, was when I defended a mainland tutor at a meeting and argued that her critics were discriminating against mainlanders. The mainlanders are my ally, and Hongkongers are our common enemy – I truly believed it at that time.

But when the student union labelled me as a troublemaker, not only did the tutor not speak out for me as I did for her, but she also turned her back on me.

“Who asked her to fight with the local students?” she told others behind my back. I felt betrayed.

I started losing hope that I would find a place to live until a Hong Kong tutor called me to say that the hall of residence had decided to give me another chance. She said some locals had argued that I was simply from a different culture and that the hall should welcome different views.

I was shocked when I heard that.

Betrayed by my ally only to be saved by my enemy - that completely changed my mentality. I became more receptive to local culture. More locals said they were eager to learn from me about the mainland, and I apologised to them, admitting that I had been too extreme in the past.

What I want to say is simple: blending into Hong Kong’s local culture is not that difficult, if we have the right attitude. That is what I learned 10 years ago. I left Hong Kong in 2002 for graduate school in the US, with full appreciation of what Hong Kong had taught me, both academically and non-academically.

But life is always more complicated than we think. I returned to Hong Kong in 2011, after studying and working in the US for nine years. Nowadays in Hong Kong, I find that blending into the local culture is not as simple as 10 years ago.

I started noticing the rapidly changing dynamics between locals and mainlanders from afar.

For example, HKU offers one-year exchange programmes for its undergraduates to study abroad. Students are selected based on academic performance and extra-curriculum activities. Each year we received about four to five HKU students in Los Angeles, and usually three or four of them were students originally from the mainland.

This had to do with the rising population of mainland students in Hong Kong. Back in my day, the economics department only had three to four mainland students. We got As most of the time, but plenty of As were left for local students. Today the economics department has about 20 to 30 mainland students, and when they get most of the As, as I heard from a HKU professor, a B is the best that a local student can hope for.

It’s not about who is smarter. After all, one is selected from a population of 1.4 billion and the other is from a population of seven million. Even though universities are supposed to be a place for fair competition, it is understandable why many Hong Kong students dislike their mainland peers. Ten years ago we “stole” apples and milk; today we “steal” As in class.

The younger generation from the mainland constantly outperforms locals in other aspects too. They score high in exams, participate in social activities and even speak better English than many local students. “We invited investment bankers to give seminars on campus,” an HKU professor said, “and after, all the mainland students rushed to socialise with the speaker, handed in their resumes and asked for internship opportunities, while many local students just hid themselves in the back rows.”

My speculation that Hongkongers felt threatened by mainlanders was confirmed when I returned in 2011. Yes, there are more mainlanders in Hong Kong than ever, and Hong Kong has never been this close to its motherland. But if you think that made my life here easier, you are wrong. Locals are rejecting mainland people and culture harder than before.

That’s why I realise that having a happy life in Hong Kong is no longer as simple as having the right attitude. It is harder to blend into the local culture than 10 years ago because the pushback from local people is harder than ever. This view is probably not shared by some of my mainland peers living in Hong Kong. Some of them do not think it necessary to blend into the local culture. “I earn more money than most of the Hongkongers” and “I always ask them to speak Putonghua to me”, one of my Beijing friends said with pride.

Resistance from locals is particularly obvious in two areas – the financial sector and the working class. The lack of transparency and the unique Chinese culture are often challenging for foreigners working in the Chinese market. Top investment banks and hedge funds prefer to hire mainlanders – over Hongkongers, ABCs and Westerners – for their China business knowledge. In Central, Putonghua is becoming a popular language, not only in shopping malls, but also in offices.

Working-class people are probably the ones who are mostly affected and, to some extent, squeezed. They face shortages of milk powder and of hospital beds, and a crowded Ocean Park - I would complain too if I were a local.

The problem is not unique to Hong Kong. Beijingers and Shanghainese complain about new migrants in their cities too. It’s all about competition for limited social welfare. In some aspects, Hong Kong is worse off. At least for a baby born in Shanghai or Beijing, she is not qualified for a hukou [residency permit] in the city if neither parent has one. But in Hong Kong, any child born here would automatically get access to the social welfare system – even if their parents are not permanent Hong Kong residents.

So who should be blamed for the rising tension between Hong Kong and the mainland? In my view, some Hong Kong media could take more responsibility. They could be fairer and stop reporting biased stories for the sake of boosting sales. The central government should also take more decisive actions to solve its food safety problem, so that mainland mums do not have to travel to Hong Kong for milk powder. Joint efforts by Hong Kong people, mainlanders, media and government will make the city a friendlier place to study, work and live.


I’d like to ask a question to end my story: nowadays in Hong Kong, should I speak Putonghua or Cantonese when I go shopping? I tried once to speak Cantonese in the Harbour City shopping mall, but the saleswoman turned away and greeted other mainland shoppers with her fluent Putonghua. I then tried to speak Putonghua at another store in Causeway Bay and received good service. But when I decided to leave without buying any shoes, the salesperson’s face went dark. She asked angrily: “Why you don’t buy? They are so cheap! And it’s another 20 per cent off if you pay with RMB!” I realised finally that it’s not about language; it’s all about your wallet.

Joy Yang is from Shanghai. She studied at the University of Hong Kong and at the University of California, Los Angeles in the US. She worked in Washington DC as an economist for the International Monetary Fund and now works in the financial industry in Hong Kong.


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Speaking loudly in the restaurant?
Ever went to a restaurant populated by HK people speaking Cantonese?
The first time I did, I thought they are going to kill each other soon, such heated was their argument.
I really hope that you can see my reply. I lived in Beijing before. I know how China is. If you don't like it here, go back. Just as I won't complain about Beijing because I know my purpose of stay.
My mother gave me up 100 years ago. My step mother teaches me manners and laws and order. Where were you? And what are you? You're still up at 5:10AM because you're a just a complainer, can't sleep?
Most of my family already left Hong Kong. Right now, almost 1/3 of Hong Kong people are not those original Hong Kong people.
Hi,, MS. Joy Yang,
You have a very right and mature attitude towards life, you have a positive thinking in handling your life. Bravo, keep it up and you will do well any where you go in this world.
evelynhoyl: There is no guaranteed validity for all published economic figures. Statistical methods only state a range with specified "level of confidence." Writers in the media seldom understand this.
Therefore, one weighs the "reliability" of information by sources. World Bank, IMF and the US Fed have tons of top flight economists whose opinions are worth debating rather than dismissed. Scientific cross-checking is the only way to get at the truth, which may offend your bias.
To get a flavor on how to offer an educated opinion, read my series of comments arbitrating a debate between Tom Holland and Jake van der Kamp in SCMP. I wrote those 1500-character pieces at college level.
Like most, I am often wrong when I don't exercise care screening out spurious sources. So you must tell me why perhaps your information is more reliable. I will for sure benefit from your fact based opinion. None of us will learn anything from "I-said-he-said" defensive rationalizations 狡辯.
China has gone from over 90% agricultural society to the present 52% urban population. She is not yet middle class, let alone rich, by OECD standards. However, her economic progress has been miraculous.
Mao saved China. But he was economics illiterate. Present meritocracy in leadership is a promising alternative to dysfunctional democracies.
Whereas my skills are imported, my core values are Ch
Whymak: 'the World Bank pegs China's homeless at 29.27 million in 2001, a miraculous decline from 250 million in 1978.'
How valid was the poverty assessment in China? By extracting a few words from the report means nothing.
According to the World Bank report, the international standard is somewhat less severe than China's official poverty line, it indicates greater numbers of poor in all years, and that by end-1998 a much larger share of the rural population - about 11.5 percent or some 106 million people -remained in poverty in China, especially the western provinces. The poverty rate is still around 10% in China now. The World Bank has suggested to adopt the international standard for a more appropriate measure of poverty to guide the government's poverty reduction program in the next century. But of course, the target to eradicate US$1.75/day poverty by 2030 as promised by world bank YK Jim would be great. But a piece of bread that already cost more than US$2 could not really help much, not to mention the cost of a shelter.
Ms. Yang pointed out rightly that the local media have been fanning the prejudicial fire! I don't know whether the low quality of the populace is the cause or the effect of such a low standard of journalism. BTW, welcome to HK, Ms. Yang!
18-year old is legal adult age and should be smart enough to make good decisions. Would an 18-year old not able to say no when a senior authority asked you to take off your pants?
The average size of flats in HK is 45 sq.m. Average new public apartment 60 sq.m. Average new private 70 sq.m. It's not spacious but not badly cramped, especially if you travel most of the time and stay late outdoor in HK. In comparable to a hotel room, a small apartment is much cheaper. Considering the lifestyle in HK, most people use the apartment to sleep, prepare simple meals and shower. Family and friends gatherings usually take place in restaurants, gardens, countryside and private clubs.
Over 200 million people (1.5% of total population) living in China are homeless. In HK, over 1000 (0.01%) are homeless. Only 1.4% (100000 out of 7m) people in HK live in coffin, cage homes and rooftops.
Talking about reflection and positive means to see the world from another perspectives do not equal to 'disputations with mainlanders'. Using the nasty words 'lynch mob', 'mindless zombies' to attack freedom of expression did not proof you have any dignity or integrity.
If the schizophrenic parent refuses to get treatment or take his medication regularly, the children have the right to stay away from the parent. The parent is not at fault for having a mental illness and being different; however, the safety of the children must be taken into consideration when a parent suffers from schizophrenia.
I agree with Joy, it is all about money with hong kong, always has been, always will be. I am from Australia but recently went back home in December and walking into many shops, i was surprised that many shop assistants thought i was from the mainland even though i've lived overseas for more than 20 years. I think the local impression is that mainlanders = money and americans/westerners = tourists. This became more evident once i started speaking english to them and or cantonese. Hong kong people should be proud of the fact that they have a much better social welfare and cultural society/freedom of expression than the mainland. China will learn from this one day and eventually when both societies are equal then this type of discrimination wont exist, after all competition only exists when resources are scarce or unobtainable. As Einstein said, current problems cannot be solved with the same level of thinking that existed when the original problems were first created. Mainland China still has a lot to learn and hong kong cannot give up teaching that or chinese people will suffer as a whole. Persistance, Perserverance and Piety.
slchoong: Just to temper your enthusiasm a bit. I wrote a rebuttal earlier to a Taiwanese elsewhere in this paper:
So you are just another Chen Shiubin diehard.

Three decades ago, Taiwan Chinese were impoverished. Be they mainlanders or Minan-speaking "locals," all they could dream about was emigrate to the US. As the satirist Bor Yang 柏楊 puts it, "to live out the rest of their pathetic lives in the US, 在美國了此殘生.”

One aberration developed by independence-minded Taiwanese is to disown their Chinese ethnicity as they become rich. But this is what Chinese people find most despicable. Among the Chinese, we seldom disown our parents because they are poor.

Aren’t Hong Kong Democracy believers just like this Taiwanese?



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