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Why living in Hong Kong as mainland Chinese is no piece of cake

PUBLISHED : Tuesday, 21 May, 2013, 12:38pm
UPDATED : Wednesday, 29 May, 2013, 10:38am

Joy Yang first wrote in Chinese about her experience as a person from the mainland living in Hong Kong. Her story was a hit on Weibo and sparked heated discussion. She has translated her article into English to share with SCMP readers.

We constantly hear Hong Kong locals complain about people who visit from the mainland and buy up milk powder or take up space in maternity wards, but rarely are the voices of those from the mainland heard.

My first impression of Hong Kong was not a good one. I was part of a batch of 28 undergraduates who had arrived from top universities on the mainland to study at the University of Hong Kong in 1999. I was 18 and excited about starting an adult life in the “Pearl of the Orient”, with its fancy shops, pop stars and legends of successful businessmen.

This excitement was soon replaced by anger and disappointment. A few days after arriving, a tutor at the hall of residence and a local female student came to my room and asked if they could search it. The girl said her mobile phone had been stolen. They rummaged through our bags then left with no apologies. But it was clearly written on their faces what they were thinking: “Where the hell are these two poor mainland girls hiding my mobile phone?”

I felt angry, but, sadly, it was not the last time this would happen. When something went missing in the hall of residence, the mainland students were always the first ones, and for most of the time the only ones, to be suspected. What was particularly insulting was that most of the suspected stolen items were insignificant - a slice of cheese or a bottle of milk. Yes, China’s per-capita GDP was low, but were we so poor in those locals’ eyes that even an orange was worth stealing?

After such bad experiences, I was always ready to strike back whenever I felt insulted or discriminated against. One time a local asked for my help on her class project comparing Hong Kong with Shanghai. Her first question was whether there was karaoke in Shanghai. Such an ignorant question offended my big Shanghainese ego. And when she asked about the living conditions there, I answered, with full arrogance: “My home in Shanghai was more than 1,000 square feet. How big is your home in Hong Kong?”

I did not make many good friends with local students at first, but I did not care. I don’t have to blend into the local culture, I told myself.

Sooner or later, those Hongkongers will recognise that mainland China is no longer a poor country, and we will influence the world with our growing economic and political power – more than Hong Kong does. So why should I care about blending into the local culture?

I could have kept “fighting” like that until one incident changed me.

After many conflicts I had with local students, the student union decided to kick me out of the hall of residence. The last straw, I believed, was when I defended a mainland tutor at a meeting and argued that her critics were discriminating against mainlanders. The mainlanders are my ally, and Hongkongers are our common enemy – I truly believed it at that time.

But when the student union labelled me as a troublemaker, not only did the tutor not speak out for me as I did for her, but she also turned her back on me.

“Who asked her to fight with the local students?” she told others behind my back. I felt betrayed.

I started losing hope that I would find a place to live until a Hong Kong tutor called me to say that the hall of residence had decided to give me another chance. She said some locals had argued that I was simply from a different culture and that the hall should welcome different views.

I was shocked when I heard that.

Betrayed by my ally only to be saved by my enemy - that completely changed my mentality. I became more receptive to local culture. More locals said they were eager to learn from me about the mainland, and I apologised to them, admitting that I had been too extreme in the past.

What I want to say is simple: blending into Hong Kong’s local culture is not that difficult, if we have the right attitude. That is what I learned 10 years ago. I left Hong Kong in 2002 for graduate school in the US, with full appreciation of what Hong Kong had taught me, both academically and non-academically.

But life is always more complicated than we think. I returned to Hong Kong in 2011, after studying and working in the US for nine years. Nowadays in Hong Kong, I find that blending into the local culture is not as simple as 10 years ago.

I started noticing the rapidly changing dynamics between locals and mainlanders from afar.

For example, HKU offers one-year exchange programmes for its undergraduates to study abroad. Students are selected based on academic performance and extra-curriculum activities. Each year we received about four to five HKU students in Los Angeles, and usually three or four of them were students originally from the mainland.

This had to do with the rising population of mainland students in Hong Kong. Back in my day, the economics department only had three to four mainland students. We got As most of the time, but plenty of As were left for local students. Today the economics department has about 20 to 30 mainland students, and when they get most of the As, as I heard from a HKU professor, a B is the best that a local student can hope for.

It’s not about who is smarter. After all, one is selected from a population of 1.4 billion and the other is from a population of seven million. Even though universities are supposed to be a place for fair competition, it is understandable why many Hong Kong students dislike their mainland peers. Ten years ago we “stole” apples and milk; today we “steal” As in class.

The younger generation from the mainland constantly outperforms locals in other aspects too. They score high in exams, participate in social activities and even speak better English than many local students. “We invited investment bankers to give seminars on campus,” an HKU professor said, “and after, all the mainland students rushed to socialise with the speaker, handed in their resumes and asked for internship opportunities, while many local students just hid themselves in the back rows.”

My speculation that Hongkongers felt threatened by mainlanders was confirmed when I returned in 2011. Yes, there are more mainlanders in Hong Kong than ever, and Hong Kong has never been this close to its motherland. But if you think that made my life here easier, you are wrong. Locals are rejecting mainland people and culture harder than before.

That’s why I realise that having a happy life in Hong Kong is no longer as simple as having the right attitude. It is harder to blend into the local culture than 10 years ago because the pushback from local people is harder than ever. This view is probably not shared by some of my mainland peers living in Hong Kong. Some of them do not think it necessary to blend into the local culture. “I earn more money than most of the Hongkongers” and “I always ask them to speak Putonghua to me”, one of my Beijing friends said with pride.

Resistance from locals is particularly obvious in two areas – the financial sector and the working class. The lack of transparency and the unique Chinese culture are often challenging for foreigners working in the Chinese market. Top investment banks and hedge funds prefer to hire mainlanders – over Hongkongers, ABCs and Westerners – for their China business knowledge. In Central, Putonghua is becoming a popular language, not only in shopping malls, but also in offices.

Working-class people are probably the ones who are mostly affected and, to some extent, squeezed. They face shortages of milk powder and of hospital beds, and a crowded Ocean Park - I would complain too if I were a local.

The problem is not unique to Hong Kong. Beijingers and Shanghainese complain about new migrants in their cities too. It’s all about competition for limited social welfare. In some aspects, Hong Kong is worse off. At least for a baby born in Shanghai or Beijing, she is not qualified for a hukou [residency permit] in the city if neither parent has one. But in Hong Kong, any child born here would automatically get access to the social welfare system – even if their parents are not permanent Hong Kong residents.

So who should be blamed for the rising tension between Hong Kong and the mainland? In my view, some Hong Kong media could take more responsibility. They could be fairer and stop reporting biased stories for the sake of boosting sales. The central government should also take more decisive actions to solve its food safety problem, so that mainland mums do not have to travel to Hong Kong for milk powder. Joint efforts by Hong Kong people, mainlanders, media and government will make the city a friendlier place to study, work and live.


I’d like to ask a question to end my story: nowadays in Hong Kong, should I speak Putonghua or Cantonese when I go shopping? I tried once to speak Cantonese in the Harbour City shopping mall, but the saleswoman turned away and greeted other mainland shoppers with her fluent Putonghua. I then tried to speak Putonghua at another store in Causeway Bay and received good service. But when I decided to leave without buying any shoes, the salesperson’s face went dark. She asked angrily: “Why you don’t buy? They are so cheap! And it’s another 20 per cent off if you pay with RMB!” I realised finally that it’s not about language; it’s all about your wallet.

Joy Yang is from Shanghai. She studied at the University of Hong Kong and at the University of California, Los Angeles in the US. She worked in Washington DC as an economist for the International Monetary Fund and now works in the financial industry in Hong Kong.


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LOL. This is very familiar.
A few weeks after I came to HK as a young western man, the story of Jeffrey Dahmer broke in the news.
So, naturally, when the staircase in the high rise building smelled awfully one day after some decaying matter, the bell rung and I found a group of residents asking to search my apartment. I laughed at them and closed the door in their face.
A short time later there was police and asked to be let in (without a warrant). I let them in. There was no smell whatsoever, as one of the first things I did was making sure the stairwell smell of rotten rats and stinking tofu couldn't enter my flat.
Local people everywhere are suspicious about strangers. That's nothing new.
The worst are the upstarts and recent immigrants.
Wherever I move I do not pay attention to them. I see it like this: As a foreigner I can only find a job there legally, because the employer cannot find local talent.

No doubt that many overseas educated mainlanders choose to come back to HK for more money than what they could earn if they stay overseas or go back to the Mainland. No doubt that many of them earn a premium salary in US or foreign financial firms operating in HK for their PRC background presumably (and hopefully) conducive to their firm's fortune. No doubt that they should feel pride in themselves for having successfully climbed up the economic scale leaving behind all the contempt and misery they may once have had before leaving the Mainland. No doubt that many of them think themselves belong to the elite expatriate group distinguished from the locals. As such, what is the point talking about living as a mainland Chinese in Hong Kong? Hong Kong unfortunately is already very crowded and can afford less such non-Hong-Kong-originated overseas returnees who come for money and become esteem-coveting turned egotist.
read your own writing before criticizing anybody else. such a joke
You should read the whole report from World Bank and check out the poverty line defined by China. Meritocracy is only one of the million entry requirement for a leader. For a good leader, he or she should be able to build a safe and peaceful country.
There is no guaranteed validity for all published economic figures. Statistical methods only state a range with specified "level of confidence." Writers in the media seldom understand this.
Therefore, one weighs the "reliability" of information by sources. World Bank, IMF, US Fed have tons of top flight economists whose opinions are worth debating rather than dismissed. Scientific cross-checking is the only way to get at the truth, which may offend your bias.
To get a flavor on how to offer an educated opinion, read my series of comments arbitrating a debate between Tom Holland and Jake van der Kamp in SCMP. I wrote those 1500-character pieces at college level.
Like most, I am often wrong when I don't exercise care screening out spurious sources. So you must tell me why perhaps your information is more reliable. I will for sure benefit from your fact based opinion. None of us will learn anything from "I-said-he-said" defensive rationalizations 狡辯.
China has gone from over 90% agricultural society to the present 52% urban population. She is not yet middle class, let alone rich, by OECD standards. However, her economic progress has been miraculous.
Mao saved China. But he was economics illiterate. Present meritocracy in leadership is a promising alternative to dysfunctional democracies.
While my skills are imported, my core values are all Chinese.
A whistle blower seldom would get sympathy. As days go by, more and more of the comments are against Yang’s revelation about her bad treatment at HKU. As I had pointed out earlier, she is at risk for whistle blow on HKU. In a place until most recently where no one tell tale on others and holding HKU as the elitist, Yang is seen as an outsider for breaking the unspoken rules. At such she should either skip town or persevere till she can beat the culture in Hong Kong. I still think she is making a sacrifice as most whistle blowers do to tangle with the truth or the wolves.
Hong Kong University began long ago to train local Chinese in English ability in order to assist the colonial government ruling Hong Kong. Ever since it is looked upon as an elite while no others which only came along much later to be allowed as equal. With big salary remuneration, Hong Kong University has had drawn good teachers and raised its profile internationally. The unfortunate aspect of its development has been the unequal improvement in its student body which had been for years reported in the news. English proficiency of its new incoming students or instructors was less than desirable. While we not lament that HKU has become more accessible the revelation of poor treatments of fellow mainland students is most regrettable. The fund raising for an ad calling to stop ‘mainlandization’ by some of its students perhaps is more in telling the world than just to the mainlanders that HKU doesn’t deserve the international reputation it has enjoyed. HKU is as provincial as its beginning with it administration just standing by in silence.
Evelynhoyl: "Would an 18-year old not able to say no when a senior authority asked you to take off your pants?"
I taught elements of symbolic logic in my freshman physical science course. Such irrelevancy in a college debate would have earned you an F.
You are fast and loose with facts. Apparently, you read only newspapers, which are written at 8th grade reading level. HKU researchers estimate 171,000 HKer's live in subdivided flats but not 100,000 bandied about in the media. Moreover, the World Bank pegs China's homeless at 29.27 million in 2001, a miraculous decline from 250 million in 1978.
As recently as late 1980's, China was poorer than India. In the 50s when I grew up, HK was as poor as Sri Lanka – formerly Ceylon. We Chinese have come a long way.
I love HK warts and all. I would never trade our city for New York, San Francisco or Paris. Denying our ethnicity is a Hong Kong shame. You don’t disown your parents because they are poor or different.
Some teachers at SJC where I studied called us all kinds of names when we performed poorly. Such verbal abuses were doled out in metered dosages of insult and exhortation. Many of us have become world class professionals with no damage to self esteem. I don’t approve this old practice.
Mindless bananas trashed our fellow Chinese. They ought to be dressed down.
四海之內皆兄弟也. Alle Menschen werden Brueder. How come so many poorly English speaking Chinese Democracy believers are so clueless?
Sometime I do pity.
If you felt like a foreigner it was because you chose to. I am a Hong Konger and have lived in three countries outside of Hong Kong, including North America and China, I have never felt like a foreigner or outsider.
If you had lived here, in Hong Kong during the years following 2003, since the Chinese have gained the right to travel here as individual travellers, then you would have something to say about their behavior too. As I already mentioned the Chinese government has asked the Chinese people to behave while abroad.



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