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Letters to the Editor, July 18, 2013

PUBLISHED : Thursday, 18 July, 2013, 12:00am
UPDATED : Thursday, 18 July, 2013, 4:17am

Consultation crucial to find waste solution

While I back the implementation of an environmental levy on domestic waste, I also think extension of our landfills is necessary as a long-term measure. Public consultation is needed to arrive at the best solution.

However, it will be necessary to put both of these policies into practice.

The necessity of the extension of landfills is due to the heavy pressure from the depositing of waste.

Even if we start to reduce the volume from today, our landfills would still face the problem of reaching capacity in the near future if they are not enlarged. Also, a failure to impose a waste charge will be tantamount to Hong Kong taking a backward step.

This tax on domestic waste is the most effective means of reducing the pressure on our landfills.

It is an economic incentive on the public to reduce volumes of household waste and it has been effective where it has been adopted.

For example, in South Korea, shortly after a levy was introduced there was a sharp drop in volumes of waste.

If we want to solve the waste-disposal problem in Hong Kong, funding for further investigations into our options must be approved as soon as possible.

This is important, because such probes will take time given the need to balance the needs and benefits of all stakeholders through consultation and comprehensive preparatory work.

If there is any hesitation in implementing such initiatives, then the government will find it is running out of time and failing to find the best policy for all stakeholders.

Funding the policies I have suggested does not mean ignoring the importance of recycling.

While recycling does matter, landfill extensions are still an important part of end treatment of waste.

The Hong Kong government has been seeking a solution to the city's waste problems for several years but the problem remains unsolved.

I think we can finally find the best and most balanced solution through rational discussions with all stakeholders.

Eva Yau Tsz-yan, Kwai Chung


Officials stick with outdated technologies

Howard Winn has been spot on with two pieces in Lai See ("Does the government need to rethink its incinerator project?", July 3, and "Buried treasure a waste when we can sell it to the Europeans", July 11) calling attention to modern ways to handle municipal solid waste. These include plasma gasification, waste-to-energy plants and the possibility of selling some of this waste to countries with excess capacity in waste to energy.

Given our government's penchant for sticking to outdated and costly technologies, can we possibly believe that its current plans to erect costly and outdated giant incinerators - generating no energy - are the best way to go? I think not.

This municipal solid waste conundrum mirrors the government's determination to build a monorail by the new Kai Tak cruise terminal.

Again, compared with modern light rail, this will cost a lot more to erect and run. The government should look at Sydney, where they are tearing down their own unsuccessful monorail, which has been a blight on the city centre.

Why can't our government learn something from other parts of the world and give us modern, efficient, cost-effective infrastructure projects, instead of sticking to expensive and outdated technologies?

Peter Forsythe, Discovery Bay


Giving money only one way to aid charities

Late last year, Chief Executive Leung Chun-ying praised Hong Kong people for their generosity when helping people in need.

However, while they are willing to give financial donations, many citizens fail to help the needy in other ways.

Most of us will donate money rather than join an organised charity event, for example, as a volunteer.

Some people will argue that this is inevitable in a city where people have to work hard to earn enough to support their families.

They say it is therefore difficult for most citizens to find the time to be a volunteer.

They want to help, but would rather do it in the form of a financial donation.

Hong Kong people can get more involved. For example, there are two famous well-established charity events in the city - Hong Kong and Kowloon Walk for Millions and 30-Hour Famine.

Participants can get sponsorship from family and friends or join the event on behalf of an organisation, such as their school or company or uniformed organisation.

For example, with the former event, after they have finished the walk, they will feel a deep sense of satisfaction.

People also have other options which are not too time-consuming, such as volunteering to participate in the flag days that are allocated to charities by the government.

Donating money is only one way in which people can make a difference.

Hong Kong people are kind-hearted and generous in giving help.

Some Hongkongers became disillusioned about charities after fears that donations to help with the Sichuan earthquake victims earlier this year could go into the pockets of corrupt mainland officials rather than to the people who needed help.

However, they should not feel too cynical, or lose faith, because there are charities which can be trusted and which do make a difference to the lives of people in need.

Kelvin Lam Kin-wang, Tsuen Wan


Security and unity priorities for our nation

I refer to Stephan Ortmann's letter ("Elitist system will not be true democracy", July 11).

He perhaps does not know that under the system envisaged, which he calls elitist, Hongkongers will be more equal and have more say than mainland people ever have.

At present, the priorities of the nation are to ensure security and unity. So we must have a system that is not susceptible to secessionists, of whom there are many, and that they do not gain power, as happened in Taiwan for a period of time.

Not only have some politicians demanded, respectively, independence for Hong Kong and to lease Hong Kong to Britain for a further 100 years, but in 2003 some student leaders questioned then security chief Regina Ip Lau Suk-yee and asked how she could place national security above freedom.

They have gone even further since then. Need I say more?

Peter Lok, Chai Wan


Economy is not the be-all and end-all

I am writing in response to the widespread arguments against democratic campaigns, especially Occupy Central.

The assumption by some appears to be that most Hongkongers are relatively well-off, or as Lau Nai-keung puts it, "not all that desperate" ("Even a minority cause like Occupy Central can do harm", July 5).

They therefore argue that the pan-democrats or "Occupy Central" supporters are exaggerating the city's social problems.

It depends on what you mean by desperate.

Certainly, if you look at some opinion polls, when it comes to the level of trust people have in the Hong Kong government, the situation is indeed desperate. And why should economic growth be thought to be so important that it overrides everything else?

There will always be social problems in any society.

The widening wealth gap also affects Western democracies. However, just because democracy cannot cure all problems does not mean we should not pursue such political goals, because of fears about social stability.

In fact, campaigns like Occupy Central, which are part of the debate taking place on what is the best system for Hong Kong, could benefit society in the long term even if, in the short term, they appear to be divisive and problematic.

Hephaes Chau, Wong Tai Sin


Cost of failing to move with the times

As a former pupil of St Stephen's Girls College, I would like to express my concerns about the controversy in which the school finds itself [over its application to join the Direct Subsidy Scheme.

I have noted that a good number of alumni are now choosing to send their daughters to other schools. Many do this because they are not sure they will get enough "points" under the allocation system and their children will be at the mercy of a lottery.

Many also prefer to send their daughters to a private or Direct Subsidy Scheme institution and it is not just the alumni who are making these choices, but other parents at kindergarten, primary and secondary level. Why can't St Stephen's get these talented girls and why is it losing its competitive edge?

People are now willing to spend thousands of dollars on a smartphone even though a simple generation-one Nokia mobile would do perfectly well for making calls. The Nokia models are being phased out, because attitudes are changing. Given the choice, consumers prefer a smartphone.

As Diane Ravitch, a US historian of education, said, "The greatest obstacle to those who hope to reform American education is complacency."

F. Ko, Mid-Levels



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To F. Ko,
Move with the time? But still staying in competitive not corporative mode? Complacency is indeed the obstacle to reform education – everywhere. The elite schools are better schools mainly because they have better teachers not better students necessarily.
Readers captam & honkiepanky:
Democracy is a religion with irreconcilable dogmas. The Universal Suffrage Sect is now a rising cult in Hong Kong. Deprogramming people from their superstitious beliefs and theological dogmas is a thankless cause. Honkiepanky doesn't like Captam confuse him with facts. This is how I read your debate.
Facts can be confusing, pesky things for the deeply misguided.
You are entitled to think the pro-democracy group is a bunch of brainwashed slogan shouters. But so what? Their psychology has no bearing on whether greater democracy would be good or bad for HK. You are proving my original point -- opposition to democracy by the "patriotic" camp is driven by group affiliation (if not naked self interest) rather than any sort of analysis of what system of government would be most beneficial for HK's population.
@ Hephaes Chau "because democracy cannot cure all problems does not mean we should not pursue such political goals, because of fears about social stability"
Oh I see, you will be quite happy to see Hong Kong sink into social instability?
Why doggedly pursue a political goal when you admit it "cannot cure all problems" and can cause a hexx lot more?
This is amusing illogic. We shouldn't pursue goals that do not solve all problems at once? Should we advise people not to quit smoking because doing so doesn't guarantee lifelong health? Perhaps I shouldn't bother trying to learn French because it won't help me communicate with Russians.
Of course, logic is beside the point to our "patriots" here in HK. I have yet to hear an argument for opposing greater citizen voice in the government, other than empty-headed nationalism or a self-serving desire to maintain the oligarchic status quo?
@ "I have yet to hear an argument for opposing greater citizen voice in the government"
Then you have obviously missed what is going on in the Middle East.
Three decades of stability in most countries until recently. But we now witness several previously safe and reasonably prosperous nations destroyed and brought to their knees by an interfering West imposing "democracy".
China has been there before and tried it in the post revolutionary period of 1912-1930. Sorry it doesn't work! People need to be ruled. This is only carried out effectively by able and natural leaders; not by "elected" riff-raff playing to a wide audience sitting in the cheapest seats.
Yes countries such as Egypt and Tunisia had "three decades of stability" in the form of low growth, mid-double-digit youth unemployment, and long serving kleptocratic leaders. This kind of stability most people can do without. Is it so hard to see that social unrest (including in HK) is the result of bad governance, rather than nascent democracy?
Your facts are way off. Egypt/Syria/Tunisia are not "reasonably prosperous" nations, they are poor countries with GDP per capita way below that of China even. Claiming that the West imposed democracy is just bizarre -- this is the same West that propped up the Mubarak regime with billions of dollars in military aid each year?
And regarding the post-revolutionary period, you are aware that China was not democratic in any way shape or form at that time?
Why extend landfills? - go the other way & reverse mine them Use recovered land for housing
download elfm.eu/Uploads/ELFM/FILE_88d8faee-d7e5-4f4a-88c7-e3fa4af1c12d.pdf
'Enhanced Landfill Mining in view of multiple resource recovery: a critical review'
'Extrapolation calculations corroborate the economic, environmental & social potential of ELFM in Europe & beyond. As Europe has 150-500,000 landfills, the full implementation of ELFM would generate a CO equivalent savings of 15-75 million metric ton CO2 apart from contributing to renewable green energy production, Gasplasma WtE entails the production of
major quantities of plasmarok slag -on a European scale 250-840 million metric ton of plasmarok can be produced. In the most ideal case plasmarok can be used as a direct substitute for cement.'
'Van Passel et al. conservatively estimated the long term (economic) potential for land reclamation from ex situ ELFM at more than 20 km2 in Flanders only this figure can be extrapolated to the EU level delivering a value of 6.000 km2'
Jolt of energy is bringing landfill mining to life Mining the rubbish buried by previous generations for valuable commodities:now it's becoming a reality
Meantime sell our MSW to needy Europe


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