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Diaoyu Islands

The Diaoyu Islands are a group of uninhabited islands located roughly due east of mainland China, northeast of Taiwan, west of Okinawa Island, and north of the southwestern end of the Ryukyu Islands. They are currently controlled by Japan, which calls them Senkaku Islands. Both China and Taiwan claim sovereignty over the islands. 


Abe's adviser blasts China in barbed Hong Kong speech

Abe aide's address read out at HK forum accuses Beijing of using force in islands row

PUBLISHED : Monday, 21 January, 2013, 12:00am
UPDATED : Monday, 21 January, 2013, 12:12pm

Japan's top foreign policy adviser, in an inflammatory speech delivered at a regional forum in Hong Kong yesterday, accused China of asserting a territorial claim by force and breaching the international order.

Yachi Shotaro's speech, read on his behalf by a former Japanese official, at the third Sino-US Colloquium, was immediately rebuffed by Chinese participants.

Retired People's Liberation Army major general Pan Zhenqiang, now a government adviser, described Yachi's statement as "very rude and arrogant", and warned Tokyo to treat China as an enemy at its peril.

The fiery exchanges came as Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang yesterday expressed "strong discontent" about comments by US Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton over the Diaoyu Islands. Clinton said earlier that the United States acknowledged Japan's control of waters near the disputed island although it did not have a stance over who had ultimate sovereignty.

This is the first time that Japan has sent delegates to the annual forum, organised by the China Energy Fund Committee in Hong Kong. Among its speakers were two former US four-star generals, one PLA general and two former Japanese commanders, as well as top thinkers and government advisers from the three countries.

All attention was on the speech by Yachi, widely believed to be the architect of Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's foreign policy and who was recently appointed a special foreign adviser. Yachi did not attend the talk in person but wrote the speech read by Takujiro Hamada, a former deputy foreign minister of Japan.

Yachi warned China to be careful of its behaviour or risk being isolated by its neighbours. He said Chinese leaders "made absolutely no claim" over the Diaoyu Islands after the second world war or in 1997, when the countries normalised their ties.

"You are now asserting the claim by force," said Yachi, referring to Beijing's dispatching of surveillance planes and ships to waters near the Diaoyus, which Japan calls the Senkakus.

"One must say that the act alone is breaching the rule of international order," he said. "I should like to ask you: is this a China you want to show to the world? Is this a China that your children will be proud of?

"My message to the Chinese is that now it is time for you to be content about who you are and what you have accomplished. Now it is time for you to be a good neighbour of Japan, a good neighbour to the Philippines and a good neighbour to Vietnam.

"Use of force and intimidation will buy you no goodwill from your neighbour or that of the international community. You will be a superpower - much feared but not much liked."

He called for the US to strengthen ties with Japan and said Tokyo was ready to "activate the dormant right of collective defence" - which could be interpreted as a step for Japan to rearm.

General Pan rebuffed Yachi's remarks. "I feel shocked and a bit sad about his historic view and his value system," he told the forum. "Mr Yachi's comments are so rude and arrogant. It is confusing [on who is in] the right and the wrong. [He] is saying that China can only be a responsible member if it totally complies to Japan's demands, otherwise China is irresponsible.

"When Japan invaded China [in the 1930s and 40s], this was the kind of attitude they showed to Chinese people: you can only enjoy peace and prosperity if you listen to our command. Do they still want to send that message to [the] Chinese today?"

Pan called Japan Asia's revisionist power, as Abe's government was trying to change the international order established after the second world war, which imposed a peaceful constitution on Japan and banned it from full-fledged militarisation.

"I just want to remind Japanese friends: is it in Japan's interest to treat China as an enemy? Is this the way for Japan to win respect by insisting on such strange historic view?" Pan said.


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Military personnels are thousands tuppence in Wanchai, both ex and serving
Some of them are of that kind of materials
The more foolish ones would pretend to be intelligence experts
johnrai7, I’m impressed by your credential, in a way you may not appreciate
If Nips defence is any good
Yankee big bro and feudal master won’t have to stand out and warn.
Your are too modest to say “I don't know what PLA has in mind”
You don’t even know what’s in your own mind
The simple question posted by Fukushima and Kobe is
How could Diaoyu help the Nips,
If even the four islands Postdam allowed them
could easily become geographical graveyards
johnrai7, enjoy and rest your nerves here,
China’s friendly HKSAR will take care of your shell or paper shock
from when you last bet your life (or did you?) on Uncle Sam's cause :D
Hi pslhk, sorry to upset you but its really embarrassing every time Chinese vessels go around the island and they get chased away by Japanese air force or navy, that's what I mean provoking.
"China under the CCP will join and fight to the end" seems ure watching too much of those propaganda TV war series :D or are you must be 9?
I don't know what PLA has in mind, as am being from army back ground that's a really silly intention. Anyways, with all due respect I know what war taste like :)
so u know how to take it in ur ar*** as well i presumed!!! where is ur dignity anyway? if u hv any that is..
so ur suggesting the PLA taking it in the A** and comply to the JP demand? the CCP wont survive very long should they relinguish the islands now to the fu**** JPs and their yank gangster frens!!
You must be 5 then. On one hand you complain that China will ignite the war, while you are admitting the Japanese the ones pulling their guns out. You and your Japanese stooges here are a hell of a joke.
Stop crying and bow to apologise to the nations you had invated and raped. The islands are not yours and were stolen from the Chinese during the invasion of China. You vowed to return everything you had stolen including these islands. The matter is very clear to me.
This whole mess can best be described as a can that needs to be kicked a few decades down the road.
Dear japan Goverment
btw, stop pretending you are the victim.
It is you that started this crab.
Dear Japan minister
I am from malaysia and my grandparents are from China. They ran away from the japanese during WW2 and but unfortunately, my grandfather was either gun down or slaughter when they invaded Malaya. As far as an apology or regret or remorse about it, your goverment have not been sincere about it. Dont pretend. Yasukini speaks for itself and the actions from your cabinet.I just simply refuse to accept your version of an apology.
I do not hate the Japanese people as the past is the past. I have visited japan on numerous occasion for holidays and even doing business with them. Japanese people that I know are nice and sincere and whenever we touch on the WW2 subject, I do feel their pain and shame. They should not be blame or be responsible for the atrocities committed to their grandparents.
However, when it comes to your goverment, the scenario is completely different.
These island are just rocks and it is indeed not worth going to war for those tiny rocks but the manner you are conducting is like as if China is totally wrong and China is the one that started this and is harrassing or threatening your country. What a load of rubbish !
You have broken the truce on what was agreed upon. It is a gentlemen agreement and a handshake to acknowledged that those island be best left to future wiser generation to settle.
How this will end, I hope it will not resort to war. But whatever the outcome, I know all the the overseas Chinese will support China.
Chinese Canadian
Good words hoitung
and I am an oversea Chinese. As I said in an early post, why doesn't the US acknowledge Dokdo as administered by South Korean, considering that's another disputed island. Better yet, why haven't the Japanese been up in words about the Kuril Islands that is administered by the Russians. US is just saying that there not taking sides and yet out right doing so in a public announcement recently. Both the Americans and Japanese governments are hypocrites.
Johnrai7 is typically rife with
rubbish - “China playing provoking game”?
and stale egg for his own s.u.c.k.i.n.g – “war is never won without the loss of many lives before it ends”
Dimwits may never have the iq to recognize the FACTs that
Nips have been provoking
and Yanks have been unthinkingly killing SE Asians, Arabs and Americans.
China is never as isolated as when it pushed back aggressive India in 1962
Ignorant Johnrai7, insufferable fool, mouthing Nehru’s “brotherhood” attiude
is ignorant about Indian encroachments into Chinse territories.
US is technologically much more advanced than China and all others
But has the US really won in Iraq and Afghanistan?
China is not at all as experienced in war as the US
But when it is unavoidable,
China under the CCP will join and fight to the end
Americans can’t take pains and losses
It will be Chinese and Nips killing each other.
Johnrai7, why don’t you go live in Nippon and India
And learn some truths about them over there?
Its a direct and honest speech from Japan side, the worry for China is its a very isolate nation in its region. The recent acts of China regarding land disputes on its neighbor has made countries around to re-arm and prepare for any confrontation with China.
China's only experience in war-fare is India, at that time India was still following the Gandhi's principle of "Non-violence" then PM Mr. Nehru thought China and India are "brothers" but after the war broke ,India failed to protect itself as it wasn't prepared at all.
Finally war was over due to the condition of war-zone and loses on both sides. However, India learnt from the mistake,today India's defence has been rebuffed and well self-equipped and ever prepared also due to Pakistan,China and terrorist conflicts that is much alive.
If there is a war on China, I see China is not ready to confront strategically or mentally, China must know the enemy is stronger, I hope China prepares well before it shoots its first or second missile.China should stop playing provoking game but prepare itself and know war is never won without the loss of many may lives before it ends...
the unlikely mtg between Abe n Xi would end in few seconds.. Senkakus belong to JP, DY belongs to China.. ok take it outside and settle this!!!!
Would any Nip/English or Nip/Chinese speaker
Help translate the following Nip-like response to my comments
Re: Shinzo Abe hopes to meet Chinese leaders in gesture of goodwill
Of 20JAN13
ulm.ulm Jan 21st 2013
oh hwosfa dlpkfjsdf mrkszkgksartldwfga you are **** smart
ulm.ulm Jan 21st 2013
maybe the military police wants to meet you one two
pslhk Jan 21st 2013
Abe has to obey nip's feudal master
The imperial big brother
Obama-san should teach the little one
The art of the 160-degree bow
When Abe gets to meet Xi
(1) An agreement / condition underlying China – Japan normalisation in 1972 was to leave the dispute over sovereignty of Diaoyu unresolved until when future generation becomes wise enough to handle it.
(2) To keep the agreement, it was only proper for China to stay officially quiet, leaving the people to express opinions as long as these expressions were within limits.
(3) The Nip violated the agreement by “nationalizing” the islands and have followed up with incessant barefaced official provocations.
(4) China / Japanese normalization has thus collapsed
(5) Now it’s already back to a state of war, waiting for a party to fire the first missile.
(6) The Yank’s false utterance about “Nip control” over the islands misleads Japan to presume itself as the 52ND state of America; But even the US balked from claiming owning the islands.
(7) Control must be effective and legitimate; Chinese patrols have shown Nip’s ineffective control
(8) Can the Yank/Nip cohort spell out the source and the scope of Nip’s alleged mandate to administrate?
(9) If this “legitimacy” is based on military power, then there will be many battles to follow in a very, very long war.
(10) At the end, although Yanks support Nips with weapons and technology, more Nips will die than the Chinese, as the islands become geographical graveyards. Then Nips might get full US citizenship, as they should have at the end of WWII, and fear future internment no more.
I can see each side holds their own points from historic views to international laws while claiming their sovereignty. It would be good if both can sit down and negotiate peacefully. Sadly the Japanese Government argues there is no dispute on the islands and this makes negotiation possible. This makes China find alternative ways to express their dissatisfaction. That is the key point right away. Even the Americans admit the sovereignty of the island is un-determined, though it is currently administered by Japan. It is America's ambiguous role and Japan's assertive view towards the islands that prompt China worry and arm themselves. And this makes more worries to the other countries, leading to arms race and mistrust in the region.
America's role is NOT ambiguous. America is in Asia not as a peacemaker but more as a troublemaker by any interpretation.
let us hope that the loudmouths on either side will be educated into understanding that a piece of land is not as important as a human life.
It's not just a piece of land. It's the natural resources, fisheries, natural gas, etc. that is so important, not to mention our historical sovereignty.
how do we have journalists like that? 'inflammatory' speech? cant they even try to be objective??

I have to say General Pan's rebuff was a rare and timely engagement directly on point in light of China's normally passive officialdom...on balance China has a better legal claim than Japan on the DY Islands although one cannot say Japan has no claim.
The Communist Party, like the fragile Argentinian government other regimes tottering on collapse, loves a call to nationalism. The Diaoyu/Senkaku Islands perfectly fit that bill. Why else do they suddenly become a matter of national concern when they did not figure in any way on the national agenda from the start, 60 years ago, when their administration was legally given to the Japan?
The Diaoyu debate is a Party cheapshot in times of plain decay in their support at home.
Obviously a neo-con redneck like you is always prepared with your standard propaganda of lies, deceit and smear declaring that "China is bad, China is evil". However you forget to see yourself in the mirror of how uncivilized and barbaric the Western Imperialist is when they continue to wage wars against sovereign nations in their cowardice attempt to blackmail and coerce the world under Western hegemony. It's ludicrous indeed for you in your failed attempt to mislead the ignorants that the islands was legally given to Japan when the owner of the islands ie. China, was not a party to the agreement.
CCP is following the will of 1.3 b Chinese on the Diaoyu Island issue. It even has the support of peddlers on the street.
The ignorance and arrogance of Yachi indicate the militarism is gaining momentum even in the very top leaders of Japan. The best way to deal with militarism is to let such people know the pain and sufferings of militarism themselves.
Japan wants to have Diaoyu not for any other reson, but for the natural resouces, because this country is as small as a cockroach.
Japan is the real enemy to peace of the region. A country that never regrets its militarism past can never be trusted by anyone.
ianson, I think you should re-educate yourself by studying the Potsdam Declaration. The Diaoyu Islands were never legally given to Japan. In fact, Japan legally owns nothing other than the 4 main islands of Japan after the 2nd World War.
You must have you head up you ar*e for your whole life, to even blame China for this when the Japanese started all this farce with their nationalism fiasco or to call the Diaoyu island a "suddenly" national concern. Well what can one expect when you are a already an apologist for the Pirate Brits, why not be the stooge of another pirate closer to home the Japanese.
Everyone chooses the point that suits them best historically when it comes to territorial claims. We have to think about the future not the past - what is possible and ethical now. We inhabit and share a different world from even just a few decades ago. Let us hope that wisdom, rather than all the tired old dogmas we see in the comments here and from the die-hard nationalists in both countries, prevails.


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