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Why spending a penny could cost 100 yuan in Shenzhen

PUBLISHED : Tuesday, 20 August, 2013, 3:45pm
UPDATED : Wednesday, 21 August, 2013, 8:41am

People with a poor aim are to be fined if they miss their mark when using public toilets in Shenzhen, officials said – provoking online derision over how the rule will be enforced.

The penalty will apply to those who urinate outside the bowl of facilities in Shenzhen, although draft regulations did not specify a minimum quantity of spillage required to be classed as a violation.

“Such uncouth use of a public toilet will be fined 100 yuan (HK$126) by authorities” from next month, a city government official said on Tuesday.

Users of China’s weibo social networks poured scorn on the measures, raising the prospect of hordes of toilet inspectors being deployed to inspect performance.

“A number of new civil servant positions will be created. There will be a supervisor behind every urinating person to see whether the pee is straight,” wrote one poster.

Another added: “Very good measures. I expect they can create 20 jobs on average for every public toilet.”

Officials with the department responsible for details of the rules could not immediately be reached for comment on Tuesday.

The measures have also provoked more considered debate, with one user arguing: “It’s better to have no rule than a rule that cannot be implemented.”

The Beijing Times carried a commentary calling into question the necessity of making a law on something that “can be simply guided by social consensus”.

“The law should maintain the most basic restraint about the people’s private life,” wrote Shu Li, a legal worker.

Chinese toilet discipline can be notoriously wayward, with pictures of people defecating in public sometimes appearing on weibo.


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International precident. A friend went to a German public restroom that had a Scheissfrau in charge. She came out of a stall and the large, rawboned Aryan pointed at a scrap of toilet paper on the floor. "You Pick That Up!",,,, " It's not mine." " I Said PICK THAT UP!"
i worked in a place the sign said if the pressure is low or the hose is short stand closer
And here I was thinking US liberals and RINOS came up with the worst 'ideas' for senseless laws..
I am an American living in Shenzhen for over 6 years and China for 16. This article is silly. Though Chinese men DO often not "pee in the urinal" as we westerners feel they should, it is because the smell of urine wofts upwards and into their noses thereby subconsciously requiring them to stand back and therefore miss the mark. Urinals should be redesigned with either a vacuum pump, (could be fun), to suck up the bad fumes, or lower on the floor. Either way, policing the loo won't work any better than policing the roads, as the Chinese do not generally have the same civic values as westerners. For more wonderful thoughts and opinions like these you can read my book, Tragic Kingdom found on Amazon and elsewhere. Thank you
Gee, how naieve can you be? Do you think in our case (western men) the smell of urine wofts downwards and therefor we are capable of peeing straight?
I've been in China only 14 years, so what am I talking about... But I've seen trough urinals and gutter urinals and peeing walls and holes in the ground where they sit over and it doesn't matter... they manage to pee on the floor before, around and behind.
There are plenty well educated Chinese that are equally disgusted about this behaviour. The perpetrators are usually uneducated, nearly illiterate peasants that are kids to parents that were even less educated and more illiterated probably. Unfortunately there are so many of those here. But the worst ones are the usually uneducated, nearly illiterate RICH peasants, that think that money makes them something...
They should reverse the law. Fine people that actually DO hit the mark. Probably in that case Chinese men will aim better, since they will want to break the law anyway.
You call this a wonderful thought? Frankly, I don't see a thread of thinking process in it. You are the tragic one.
So in China, everyone must go in the government approved "stool"house. As in "stool-pigeon"?
China is the greatest example of control government run control freak commies. Who gets to decide if you have hit or missed the target while inside the government run Potty?
Or put another way, who in the government has the job to monitor (via some government approved 'secret' spy camera) who is properly hitting the mark and who is not? After all, in a Big Brother Land of Total Control (including bowel movements, how many children you have, if you own a Bible, etc) wouldn't such a camera be necessary to make sure that no one defecates on a picture of the Prime Minister, Nguyen Tan Dung. Dung is human excrement in English. What about the President. What if someone just uses the paper and then slaps it on the wall like wallpaper to protest the fact he can't escape your Chinese Communist Paradise?
Or even worse than that, they smuggle in a Bible and read it surreptitiously because it is the only place where he/she can get any real privacy in your police state?
That is right! So where is the one place left that must have a "security camera" installed?
I rest my case...(;~))
Ok. Now what can be done about the constant luger spit.
Don't have to worry about China taking those jobs away from the US
Wonder how much the inspector job pays?




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