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Tiny old Britain? It's only good for study and travel, says China's state media

PUBLISHED : Tuesday, 03 December, 2013, 5:03pm
UPDATED : Wednesday, 04 December, 2013, 12:26pm

As British Prime Minister David Cameron launched a charm offensive at Shanghai Jiao Tong University yesterday, a state-owned newspaper derided the United Kingdom as merely a destination for Chinese students and tourists.

During the 40-minute meeting with students from the alma mater of former president Jiang Zemin , a relaxed Cameron took questions from the floor. The approach paid off.

"He exhibited humour, confidence and clarity of thought," said Zhang Yang, a student at Jiao Tong. "We enjoyed the open atmosphere and his style of talk."

When Cameron revealed that his old tutor at Oxford University, Vernon Bogdanor, criticised his work via e-mails even 25 years after he had left the university, the 300-odd students burst into laughter.

Vote now on our poll: Britain is no longer a 'big' power and is only good for tourists and students. Do you agree with China state media's assessment?

Cameron is leading a 100-strong business delegation to China to encourage investment and he has posted pictures of his meeting with top businessmen, including Jack Ma, founder of Alibaba, on his Facebook page.

A Global Times commentary described the UK as just "an old European country" that is only a destination for Chinese people to study and travel. It said the UK was "not a big power in the eyes of the Chinese".

It was headlined: "China won't fall for Cameron's 'sincerity'." Beijing was outraged when Cameron met the Dalai Lama last year. "Beijing needs to speed up the pace of turning its strength into diplomatic resources and make London pay the price for when it intrudes into the interests of China," the article said.

Cameron said he had told President Xi Jinping and Premier Li Keqiang that Britain was an open market for China's high-speed-railway builders.

"We think we have a lot to learn from China in this regard," he said. "My government has taken a very clear view that the countries that will succeed in the future are the countries with the most modern infrastructure."

In an apparent effort to strike a chord with his young audience, Cameron used a Chinese proverb - "one generation plants good trees and the next generation can enjoy the shade of them".

Asked to comment on the central government, Cameron said the leadership had to give priority to the "many" low-income people to enable them to benefit from economic growth.

Meanwhile, Beijing denied it had sought to target the Bloomberg news organisation by barring its reporter Robert Hutton from a joint event with Cameron and Li on Monday.

Cameron's office said that before the event, it had "raised concerns at senior levels and made clear it would be completely inappropriate to exclude journalists from the press statements".

Bloomberg's website has been blocked on the mainland since it reported last year on the wealth of Xi's family.

Foreign ministry spokesman Hong Lei said: "We try our best to satisfy the needs of other journalists, because the site is limited there, and the arrangements we made in accordance with such requirements were no different from before."

Additional reporting by Agence France-Presse

 

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gtdb
Good to see this new with details description
gtdb
Also it is fruitful for readers with both article and photos, good good good
req
Thankfully there are great people like Germans in the world who use machine guns on others with machine guns, and not pointy sticks and rocks. The great empire consisted of land taken from pygmy savages who couldn't do much more than chuck rocks at the cowardly imperialists....
tksiow
The Krauts are the scum of the earth.Their ancestors murdered millions of Jews.This great nation of cowards did not spare the elderly,women and children.
Remitting Prosperity
It is true that we British are not a great power any more, indeed we have not been since the 1950s really. However, it is not really very welcoming of the Chinese government to use one of its newspaper mouthpieces to make rude remarks about us just when Cameron is visiting. Xi Jinping gets more like Qianlong in his attitudes every day. The demand for a kowtow cannot be far off....
skywalker
All British people should do what the Chinese people are normally doing when there are negative comments about Chinese in the Media (like that "kill all Chinese" comment or the comments in that Dutch TV Show about the Chinese singer): Stage world-wide protest against China and the Chinese and demand that this "state-owned" newspaper is being closed down.
I am so proud that British people in general have a higher intelligence and sovereignty, so that they can take these things just as nothing, not being angered by this and still have sympathy for China.
caractacus
The UK has the world's 6th or 7th largest economy. Per capita its GDP is 6 times that of China. It is the centre of the world's insurance markets and 2nd biggest financial market. That is all based upon verifiable published statistics whereas China's data is highly questionable. The UK is also a far, far better place to live, where people have civil liberties, human rights and a host of other freedoms Chinese can only dream about. The UK's benefits include the rule of law, free and fair elections, freedom of expression and movement, not being subject to arbitrary arrest, torture, execution, unlawful confiscation of livelihood and property, rampant corruption and a host of other evils perpetrated by a regime which the people have no right to question or change.
jd.salinger.3154
How about this: It is problematic for the US to have tiny Britain and tiny Japan as "allies", as nations, they are proven to be rather schizophrenic and may even have grandiose delusions. I would rather the US be hanging out among equals, such as China and Russia.
skywalker
Imagine the people in the Mainland China would ask their government questions about exactly these true and verifiable facts about the UK. This is the reason why this "state-owned" newspaper, as an instrument of the Chinese government needs to tell its people that the UK is not worth going there and that they have to understand that the UK has nothing more to offer.
gemdiverstation
To paraphrase the Global Times, "Britain is not a big power and is only a destination for Chinese people to study and travel."
So why even bother to go there for study and travel in the first place?
I'd rather live with a 'little power' than associate myself with a self-proclaimed 'great power' who is having illusions about itself.
tksiow
All great powers have it peak and trough throughout history.
Just remind the Global Times that 100 years ago the Great Chinese Empire was humiliated by Britain in the opium war and the ceding of Hong Kong etc.
skywalker
Who cares for the opinion and statements of a "state-owned newspaper" in China? This is only for brainwashing their own people so that they do not ask any questions about their government and how things are in their own country.
goncalo
China on the other hand is neither good for tourist nor for students.
jonlimcff
China with its pollution is bad for tourists. Who want to visit China with its polluted cities , corrupted people, backward education system.
Is China a super power. ? The answer is a big NO ! China is a paper tiger. With it's corrupted government officers loaded with united states dollars China will never have the guts to fight anyone as long as the USA disallowed it. China will always kowtow to the USA. Why ? Because the people in power in China and their family have too much money and comfort to dare to fight the USA
gemdiverstation
Just let the PRC revel in its illusion of itself being a so-called superpower. Someone I just wish that its farcical economy would just collapse sooner, and then they could see how much a superpower they really are.
karimabernathy.karima
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HazelRowland
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Dai Muff
Nationalism is bunk. The hobby and pride of little people. Whatever the nation.
shouken
The UK has been totally eclipsed by the United States, by a very long shot. That English remains the lingua franca of today's globe is owing primarily to the US, not the British Empire. If Nazi Germany was not taking on everyone at the same time 70 years ago, the world would look quite different today. History is indeed contingent.
jd.salinger.3154
History is only contingent when one doesn't understand the reason behind Lady Macbeth's compulsive handwashing habit.
wailunscmp
Typical Han Chinese arrogance and ignorance: belittling other races and nations. Loooks like Chinese people never learn from their past mistakes.
It seems incredulous that such a "little Britain" can wield so much power and influence in the global stage, much to the envy and changrin of China. It's not the size of your population or your GDP that matters; it's soft power that influences the world
req
Size matters not...
pslhk
Somehow the Japanese comment accepts no reply
But the fact is clear enough
All should see the following comment homing in its target
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Scholarly pretension busted
the japanese revealed as
phenotype of impecunious anencephaly
now indulges in ventilating stupid rubbish
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In the latest historical evidence
japanese kicked the British out from the Malay peninsula
then China kicked Japanese back to the loin clouth like islands
Who kick who is so clear that in 1997
China didn’t have to kick the British
but allowed them a boat ride out of HK
mercedes2233
Where was that article that said China should try to make friends? Like I said, China needn't do anything. Wannabe friends will arrive on its doorstep, and try to charm and wheedle. Even Richard Nixon arrived like a shot after the Ping-pong diplomacy.
anson
It's interesting the amount of press coverage that is given to such an insignificant country. Small, yes its always been small. Are we sure that this is not something to do with Britain attempting to exercise her independence from the CCP and meeting who they like?
lexishk
I see the charm offensive is one-way only, as usual.
Brit_in_China
I am British, 48, left the UK in 2005 and set up a factory in China - now have USD 12m sales, 132 people, no borrowings, and growing at 32%. The reason I did this was simple: Britain is completely wrecked economically. It was people like Cameron that wrecked it over the last one hundred years. He and his class have absolutely no concept of how to run a country. The Chinese Government however is creating an economic behemoth. Here are the key differences between Britain and China as I see it: 1. PRC owns or controls the banks - therefore they control the size of the money supply - therefore they can ensure smooth straight-line economic growth. 2. PRC respects the wealth creating properties of industry and manufacturing. Cameron really struggles to even get the word 'manufacturing' out of his mouth without shuddering. To be an Engineer in the UK is to feel like a third class citizen. 3. PRC has a long-term practical development plan. They are in control. The UK has no plan at all. Nothing. It is tumbleweed rolling past the 'last chance' saloon in the British Parliament. I am proud to be British, I am proud of my country and its heritage; but I am seething with anger at the incompetence, rank stupidity, and political corruption of the British ruling establishment. I would love to go back and change this situation, but I am too busy growing my business in China.
sino.capitals@gmail.com
ya but the most key reason under all is the British do not want to work for cheap and they do not want to just take on any job and they do not want to work so hard thats the main reason , and British producers do not want to loose dignity selling cheap and the British government to do not want to give up taxing high and they do not want to give up racism and protectionism these are all the base reason before any .
Dai Muff
Neither do Chinese. They are just scared of starving. That's not the same as "wanting to work cheap".
sino.capitals@gmail.com
i hope you will not expand that much in China , if the British jews do not like us to expand in Britain why should you be allowed to expand in China ? why is that fair?
anson
Are you insane? Blaming the jews again are you Adolf?
sydmel
Global Times speaks like as Qian Long to Macartney, though the difference this time is that China has advanced technologically. Still somethings look similar: Chinese economy is the biggest in the world (only second to the US for the time being), and people working in the bureaucracy today speak like people in the old Qing imperial court.
sino.capitals@gmail.com
life is the individual , China is a big economy ? whats the population ? whats per capita ? of course if you put all the people in any nation together they can buy London bridge but its mean to put it that way . Many people in the world earn less than what you pay for your dog or cat food
HiggsSinglet
"a state-owned newspaper derided the United Kingdom as merely a destination for Chinese students and tourists." The MFSOB confucius narrow minded state media is spreading rumors again!!!!
sino.capitals@gmail.com
ya but they are right for what they say, even British genius leaves Britain for the New World thats why even the British do not have their own British doctors its Indian , so whats left in Britain the Queen and the Indians ?
sino.capitals@gmail.com
in normal daily life most people do not know who actually Britain is , may God forgive them
sino.capitals@gmail.com
Britain is not a big power this is confirmed by many because they do not know that the western royals are actually one family they also do not know that Rothschild has at least 500 trillion dollars they do not know that the Queen has the power to feed and clothe every single person on earth , most people see Britain from the recent written history point of view without knowing what makes up Britain , most people do not know that the royal family can be the king or queen of america and canada and australlia any time they want whenever neccessary, most people do not know that even Hitler's secret UFO makings needed British fundings
sino.capitals@gmail.com
i think people like the British but its the British who are racist and snobbish, British techonology and invention i believe still leads but they will not sell it and not give it anyway , normally founders never die Britain is still the one who started the industrial revolution there is no other who did that first but will they be the last as well only God knows , Ya the British are still the educators of their level , they can educate basically but i am not sure they will give the best , it was never otherwise so it will be from now ?
lucifer
I would put money on it that the U.K. could still kick China's A$$ in war.......
pslhk
Phenotype of impecunious anencephaly
Scholarly pretension busted
this japanese now indulges in ventilating stupid rubbish
pslhk
Phenotype of impecunious anencephaly
pslhk
Phenotype of impecunious anencephaly
sino.capitals@gmail.com
certainly its totally right but it has no effect because the UK will never need it to do that its a power which has no outlet to excercise it so its no different to it does not have it
pslhk
Of course some Chinese won’t find it charming
that the British better the Chinese in the Sichuan act of face changing
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The British are fast learners with less “cultural” burden than some others
As China grow stronger the British would prove effective followers
See, Cameron is one step ahead of Biden
and most others, slow learners
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Though myself an Anglophile
I ain’t the type exemplified below that follows the follower
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Chinese students, not just those at Jiao Tong
should learn from Britain, the former world leader
and study hard the foundation of Pax Britannica
Byebye
I can only think of the photo - the inappropriate choice of the painting as background and the flower arrangement that over powered the two leaders.
lib_prc

Usual SCMP rubbish. Chinese ppl including me are generally Anglophiles; we admire the high-achieving British ppls and want to eventually speak their language and fully appreciate their literature. The effect of Mr. C's visit will play itself out over time.
Asynsis
Britain created the modern world we live in: multicultural, well-travelled & open, pluralistic British society has a rich, globally-spanning history that encourages free thinking, rigorously rational thought, innovation & imagination.
The three-piece suit worn as formal attire all over the world was invented in Piccadilly, London by Beau Brummell, as an adaptation of the military tunic, so the source & inspiration behind global men's fashion, was first designed in Great Britain.
Asynsis like all "big-ticket, high value" British design, (as UKTI calls our Hong Kong Spin design), exemplifies & celebrates British creative thinking (balancing both Art & Science - Divergent-Irrational & Convergent-Rational thinking-of Simplexity, of the Asynsis principle), at its very best. ****about.me/asynsis
Britain's genius has been to dare to be different, to be optimal in design solution-seeking, and then to spread that free thinking and world-transforming innovation & design all around the world, to help the world to "flow more freely - & in Chinese terms, to enhance its Qi-flows" (for example, both Capitalism and Marxism were invented in London, & have since been positively transforming & developing China with great success over the last two generations).
British design contributions to global prosperity & enlightenment continue via the global operating system of the viral English language, Apple's Jony Ive, the global library that is the World Wide Web & now the Asynsis principle.
Asynsis
Britain: Cameron in China. No longer a Big & Hard power - More Viral & Soft? ****www.facebook.com/pages/Asynsis/134142719983026?ref=br_rs … ****www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1371911/tiny-old-britain-its-only-good-study-and-travel-says-chinas-state-media …
pslhk
Please remind me
did the British invent IP?
Why are religion, language, political ideologies, fashion, ...
and all such enchanting things that are more than free?
Caveat emptor
Asynsis
****en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent
Looks like Magna Graecia can claim precedence, followed by Venice, then Britain.
That WTO-IP system is the basis of HK's IP laws, one of the foundations of (as Li Ka Shing recently reminded us in a timely intervention), our "rule of law, not of men" system. Our distinctive way of life & values & the need to preserve and enhance our competitive advantages & preserve a level playing field for all is a result of our uniquely winning synergies of Anglo-Chines virtues. So two observations:
1. Science laws & principles are not subject to full IP but the devices that are derived from them, (based on precedence in publication & public exhibition), can be. Examples from Britain include the TV, Jet Engine & Electronic Computer. Hong Kong Spin is another example in its "one country, two systems" "Zhong-Phi" transcultural design as it is derived from & a direct reference to the Asynsis principle-Constructal law of design in nature.
2. Science IP does however, follow precedence convention & copyright. The Asynsis Principle & predictions were first published in a 1994 AD magazine article. They were followed by a comprehensive QED in the Constructal Law, first published in 1996.
The principals behind both have recently joined forces since the two are entirely symbiotic. Constructal thermodynamic behaviours have Asynsis geometries in time. Asynsis visualises the Constructal in a unified new transformative, optimal, sustainable design paradigm.
Asynsis
****en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent
Looks like it was Magna Graecia, then Venice, with the British soon after.
The UK IP system continues under WTO auspices in HK and is one of the foundations of our rule of law, (not of men), system as Li Ka Shing recently reminded us in a timely intervention re conserving our distinctive way of life and competitive edge that results from a vibrant synergy of Anglo-Chinese virtues.
So two observations:
1. Science laws and principles, both of which the UK has been prolific at for centuries, (also giving the world devices such as the television, electronic computer and jet engine), are not subject to full IP, but the devices that result from them are - based on precedence in publication and public exhibition.
Hong Kong Spin, derived from the Asynsis principle, is an excellent example.
2. However, science principles are covered by a convention of precedence and copyright. For example, the ideas behind the Asynsis principle where first published in London in AD magazine in 1994, while the Constructal law, which is the Asynsis QED, was first published in 1996. The principals behind both have recently joined forces, since the two axioms are entirely symbiotic. N
So nature's thermodynamic behaviours and geometric signatures have been unified into one new universal complexity ToE for optimal, sustainable and beautiful design and development. ****www.slideshare.net/asynsis/asynsis-constructal-press-release251113-28672400
Remitting Prosperity
And they wonder why people don't like them.....
skhk
Ha. Yeah, right "Global" Times.

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