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Love China or leave, Lu Ping tells Hong Kong's would-be secessionists

PUBLISHED : Thursday, 01 November, 2012, 12:00am
UPDATED : Thursday, 01 November, 2012, 8:46am


  • Yes: 33%
  • No: 67%
1 Nov 2012
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Total number of votes recorded: 567

"Those who do not recognise they are Chinese should look at what is written on their passports or they should renounce their Chinese nationality."

So says Lu Ping, former director of the State Council's Hong Kong and Macau Affairs Office. "Our country, which has a population of 1.3 billion, would not be bothered losing this handful of people," Lu stated in an exchange of email with the South China Morning Post.

Lu made the comments when attacking people in the city who do not want to acknowledge their nationality.

Under the Nationality Law of the People's Republic of China, people can apply to renounce their nationality if they are a close relative of a foreign national, are settled abroad, or for other legitimate reasons.

Lu told the Post he noted some people had waved the British flag and held up posters calling for "Hong Kong independence" at a recent protest in the city. "They claim the only way out for Hong Kong is to become an independent nation," he said.

It was the second time Lu has commented on calls for Hong Kong independence. In a letter to the Post on October 12 he said "these guys who advocate for Hong Kong independence are sheer morons". "Deprived of support from the mainland, Hong Kong would be a dead city." Lu said it was good his remarks had triggered controversy.

Last week, Lu's former deputy, Chen Zuoer, said "the rise of a pro-independence force in Hong Kong is spreading like a virus" and should be dealt with firmly.

Yesterday, an editorial in the state-run Global Times described the notion of an independent Hong Kong as a "false proposition". It said a minority of Hongkongers had stirred up anti-mainland sentiment because they were losing their sense of superiority over mainlanders.

Dickson Cheung - the spokesman of a group that has set up a Facebook page called "We are Hongkongers, not Chinese" - had this to say in response to Lu's latest attack on those who did not want to acknowledge their Chinese nationality: "We do not even want an SAR [Special Administrative Region] passport. But what can we do?"

Executive Council convenor Lam Woon-kwong said he did not see the emergence of a movement for independence, even though some people had waved the British flag during protests.


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Camel: You posts illustrate why there is an independence movement. We are faced with a crisis of identity. Despite our laziness and/or fear, with active discouragement by both China and Britain to articulate an identity, one stirred within us. it is now mature and so self-evident after 160 years it overwhelms us, I'm filled with pride at who we are today and who we aspire to be; an altruistic, creative, industrious, reflective, free, wise and worldly people. This stands juxtapose to the mainland, a traumatised nation born of an empire that is only 63 years old that struggles to feed & define itself, it is easier to define a 'European' than a 'Chinese'. A vulgar & outdated ethnic nationalism (that does not do 1.3bn people justice) pulls at many HKers, encouraged by the CCP, but this tribalism is regressive; forget your past & be 'Jung-go ren' or beg to remain a colonial subject. But this no longer suffices, the mainland seeks to overwhelm us as we always knew it would. Lu Ping represents the mediocrity of the party, insulting, vulgar, philosophically bankrupt & obedient, like so many ethnic nationalists. To see how far we've come and to be as he says? As you say? Slaves to an ethnicity? A HK nationalist movement promises control of our destiny in a world city. What do Lu Ping or China promise? A quiet (or violent) transition to oblivion as just another Chinese city and all that we've become dismantled. And in this crisis you & Lu Ping only have taunts? Then long live HK!
Actually, I'm a white expat, with permanent residency. I think there is racism against mainlanders, but also they have that towards HKers- especially white expats! Today, on a walk-bridge, I got out of the way of an old chinese lady, a man with a metal trolley, but decided to then not move aside for someone, because he was young, and fitter than me. However, he didn't, and deliberately bumped me to show his disdain for me. He didn't know that I had already made way for others before him. Therefore, he will think of me as arrogant, but I'm not. I think the poorer Chinese have it hard, and the peasants and factory workers the hardest. I'm not communist, but capitalism doesn't marry well to democracy either. Personally, when my son was small, he had to pee in a gutter sometimes, and it's not such a big deal licking a plate. Life ain't a photo from the SCMP magazine!
Not every Chinese people have plenty of money.About 128 million people live on 6.3 per day.There is always the bad guys and good guys in the world, high quality or low quality. But I believe more the good people in the world.So try to understand others,don't jump to conclusion.Division is not a good thing. You can imagine South Korea and north Korea.Imagine the separated of relative.l'm not good at English,but l love China
For Lu Ping to note, Hong Kong people did leave in droves even well before 1997 as I did to Australia but these mainlanders keep following to come here. It isn't because we don't like China it is the mainlanders disgusting behavours such as talking loud, jumping queues, licking the plates afterwards (saw this with my own eyes in a Hotel restaurant), their children peeing in the gutters and total lack of decorum and disregard for anyone else that us Hong kongers dispise.
Lu Ping is a simple minded politician, for it's not the Hong Kongers denouncing their nationality and prefer the British rule, certainly not, it's more about the respect we Hong Kongers do not have for the mainlanders who show complete disrespect for us and seemed to think because they now have money (mosly from corruptions or sale of their rural properties) they can behave atrociously like they just come out of their caves of some rural areas.
As a Chinese person I hasten to say most of the Hong Kongers, Singaporeans and overseas Chinese who migrated a long time ago all say the same thing about the mainlanders. Even if their children are now being sent overseas such as Australia to study it will still take no less than four of their generations to become cultured to rid the bad habits of their forebears.
It's not about nationality its the lack of respect for mainlanders we don't have. Ask why people don't like Japanese but still have a lot of respect for their manners. Lu Ping go and join them.
China needs HK.
HK does not need China.
Most people in HK would be happier without the chinese sucking away the value of their former currency, their culture, their independence. Why do the HK people allow this? America will help you in your independence.
"Last week, Lu's former deputy, Chen Zuoer, said "the rise of a pro-independence force in Hong Kong is spreading like a virus" and should be dealt with firmly."
Such is the paranoia and authoritarianism of China's ruling elite who only care about retaining power and not dealing with the social ills caused by crony capitalism, while they send their own spoiled children overseas to study, funded by money of questionable origin. Does it forebode more repressive forces being brought to bear on Hong Kong in the near future?
i hear white americans saying "love it or leave it all the time". if white people can go to a country like america, kill the natives, and take the land by force, and then tell other people to love it or leave it, then i dont see why the Chinese cant do that. furthermore, if the compradore class loves the **** so much, then why not move to europe? see if they will treat you any better than beijing.
The native americans at their time of decimation were barely into the stone age, no mastery of fire, basic stone hunting tools, nomadic, no agriculture. White americans did them a favor by dominating them. Without the white american they would still be living in animal skin tee-pee today.
There is no chance that america will allow china to destroy taiwan or HK. That is certain. The USA is the major power in the pacific region and could easily throw its weight around if china chooses to oppress its friends in taiwan and HK. These areas are useful to us.
I recognise that I am 100% Chinese, but I am 100% revolted by Lu Ping's out-dated, corrupt, bullying understanding of what it means to be Chinese. To be honest, I had never really thought of HK independence, but I am grateful to Lu Ping for having planted this seed in my mind.
no sir, you are 100% Hong Kong. Why allow Beijing to dominate you when HK is better than any city in the mainland, including Beijing?



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