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Lai Tung-kwok rape comments

Hong Kong's Secretary for Security, Lai Tung-kwok, sparked outrage from women's groups over comments he made on May 14, 2012, when announcing a sharp rise in the number of rapes in the first quarter of that year. "Some of these cases also involved the victims being raped after drinking quite a lot of alcohol. So I would appeal that young ladies should not drink too much,' he said as he reported the government's Fight Crime Committee statistics.

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Security chief Lai Tung-kwok denies blaming rape victims

Women's groups have called on the security chief to apologise for suggesting women should drink less to avoid being raped

PUBLISHED : Wednesday, 15 May, 2013, 4:29pm
UPDATED : Thursday, 16 May, 2013, 7:37pm
 

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Secretary for Security Lai Tung-kwok said on Thursday he had no intention of putting the blame on rape victims when he earlier suggested women should drink less to avoid being assaulted.

Lai is facing calls from outraged women’s groups to apologise over the remarks he made on Tuesday.

On Tuesday, he said some rape cases involved victims being raped after drinking a lot of alcohol and “so I would appeal that young ladies should not drink too much.”

On Thursday, Lai explained that these remarks were made in response to media inquiries and that he did not intend to lay responsibility on the victims.

“I had no intention whatsoever of putting the blame on the victims,” he said on Thursday afternoon.

“I really hope that if there are any victims, they will bravely come forward," he said. "Police will do their best to catch their attackers and bring them to justice.”

The security chief also said he had received several emails regarding his remarks and the opinions expressed in them made hime feel "very uneasy”.

“I will humbly listen to these opinions,” he said.

Women's groups have called on the security chief to apologise for suggesting women should drink less to avoid being raped.

They said Secretary for Security Lai Tung-kwok had shown his ignorance and was putting the blame on the victim instead of the attacker.

Linda Wong Sau-yung, a leading campaigner against sexual violence, said she was outraged.

Women do not get raped because they drink too much alcohol. In many cases, they are raped because they have too much trust in their friends who rape them
Linda Wong Sau-yung of the Association Concerning Sexual Violence Against Women

"Women do not get raped because they drink too much alcohol," said Wong, of the Association Concerning Sexual Violence Against Women. "In many cases, they are raped because they have too much trust in their friends who rape them."

Liu Ngan-fung, a spokeswoman for Forthright Caucus, which campaigns on women's issues, said Lai was adding insult to the victims' injury.

Lai's remarks on Tuesday came as statistics from the government's Fight Crime Committee showed that rapes in the first three months of this year were up on the same period last year. The number increased almost 60 per cent to 35 cases.

Speaking after he attended the committee's meeting on Tuesday, Lai said all of the cases happened between people who knew each other.

"They are either friends, close friends or they just met a few hours ago," he said. "Some of these cases also involved the victims being raped after drinking quite a lot of alcohol. So I would appeal that young ladies should not drink too much."

Wong said Lai should withdraw the comments. "He was discouraging the victims from reporting the abuse," she said, citing a study by another group that said the actual number of rapes could be up to seven times the number reported.

Liu asked whether Lai was saying that women should not go out at night and should not drink alcohol. "Instead of putting the blame on the victim, he should step up effort to arrest the rapists. Did he mean that the victims deserve to get raped?" she asked.

Liu Pui-shan, director of the Hong Kong Federation of Women's Centres, was also outraged. "It's like blaming the banks for putting too much money inside the vaults if they get robbed."

The remarks went viral on Wednesday as web users united to condemn Lai. Angry Twitter and Facebook users reposted the comments several hundred times. 

"Hong Kong Secretary for Security advises that 'young ladies not drink too much' after rise in rapes. Or, gosh, maybe tell men not to rape?” Hong Kong-based Twitter user Miss O’Kistic said on her feed.

"Doesn't matter if the woman has been drinking or dressing 'provocatively'. Rape and Sexual Violence against Women are never ok!!” Facebook user Noreen Mir wrote on the wall of protest group SlutWalk Hong Kong.

A spokesman for the Security Bureau said Lai had not intended to blame rape victims, and only wanted to highlight the ways in which culprits took advantage of their victims.

 

 

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lausarbun
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the right-wing blame the victim has come to HK
look out there are lots of communist online worker just click dislike but dont reply
ghrt8
"A spokesman for the Security Bureau said Lai had not intended to blame rape victims, and only wanted to highlight the ways in which culprits took advantage of their victims."
Let's hope that this was his intention. Appears to have been taken out of context.
It is totally correct for men and women to avoid situations that could make them vulnerable.
lausarbun
he is blame the victim
look out for those communist online worker speak for their official
those worker wont give a reason
just say that a is not a
why the worker just writing the same thing?
babyhenry
Hong Kong Style - If he didn't make the statement bash him. If he made the statement nip pick the words, take it as out of context as much as possible and bash him again.
captam
Secretary for Security Lai Tung-kwok is of course quite correct.
Women who have been boozing wake-up in the morning, sober and clear headed, and are convinced they said "no". Chances are, however, they just giggled and murmured "may be".
Most men, similarly under the influence, would take that for a "yes" !
bonbon
As a woman, I have to say that I'm wary of situations which make me vulnerable. Drinking a lot clouds my judgement and dull my sense of danger so I don't drink a lot if I am in a strange place or with strangers. It's common sense. If my daughter was old enough to drink, I would advise her to use her common sense also. It's like saying do not stand too close to the subway platform because you may get hurt. Is it the duty of the MTR to protect people from all dangers involved in riding the subway? Is it the police's duty to make sure no one is raped no matter what they do?
I think there's a point to what Mr. Lai is saying but he must explains what he meant otherwise it would be twisted by the media into something sensational.
lausarbun
just another communist worker who blame themselves
look out a classic communist's logic
blame the victim
Camel
Only drink as much as you can stand it. If you drink until you faint and get a black out, there is a great risk of getting raped or robbed by others. This advice applies to both man and women. Man get most of the time robbed (or as well get raped), women get most of the time raped (and robbed). So what is wrong with his statement?
stegriff
Secretary Lai didn't give any recommendations for men. He singled out women, putting the focus on the victim where many people interpret his words as meaning it is the rape victims fault. Lai is a public official, should be more careful with his wordings in a public statement and should expect scrutiny. He is rightly being criticized for his careless words. If he had given a blanket statement that everyone should be careful drinking b/c pickpockets and rapists tend to take advantage of alcohol drinkers, then it would not be controversial. A public official's statement shouldn't be defended for what he DIDN'T say.
Dai Muff
Ah, how soon the male-hating appears. This isn't about "men" as a group (although it IS the only ethnic or gender group one is allowed to insult with impunity these days). It is about rapists. Just as comments about being the victim of murder, robbery, or violence, are about ****s, thieves, and thugs. Secretary Lai was SPECIFICALLY referring to a previous sentence in which he had noted that many of the rapes in the recent quarter involved the VICTIM being drunk. No word on the sobriety of the rapist.

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