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Lai Tung-kwok rape comments

Hong Kong's Secretary for Security, Lai Tung-kwok, sparked outrage from women's groups over comments he made on May 14, 2012, when announcing a sharp rise in the number of rapes in the first quarter of that year. "Some of these cases also involved the victims being raped after drinking quite a lot of alcohol. So I would appeal that young ladies should not drink too much,' he said as he reported the government's Fight Crime Committee statistics.

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Security chief Lai Tung-kwok stops short of apology for rape remark

Responses leave Lai Tung-kwok 'uneasy', but he makes no attempt to withdraw the comment

PUBLISHED : Friday, 17 May, 2013, 12:00am
UPDATED : Friday, 17 May, 2013, 5:56am

The security chief admitted yesterday that he felt "uneasy" after reading e-mails responding to his suggestion that women should drink less to avoid being raped, but he appeared to be standing by the comment.

He did not withdraw the remark or apologise despite demands to do so.

"I did not mean to put the blame on victims [of rape and sexual abuse]," Secretary for Security Lai Tung-kwok said.

On Tuesday, Lai appealed to young women not to drink too much, as the latest government statistics showed the number of rapes in the first quarter of the year had increased almost 60 per cent, to 35 cases.

With his words coming under fire, Lai said he had replied to e-mails and would "listen humbly to suggestions". He also asked victims to step forward to report rape and said the police would do all they could to bring the attackers to justice.

It may have been a gentle reminder, and I don't doubt his good intentions, but it's also a judgment - an incorrect judgment and assumption. I'm worried this wrong logic will cause women to misunderstand and think that if they drink less, they'll avoid being raped

Women's groups said his response was not satisfactory and repeated calls for him to withdraw his original comment and apologise.

"He has put some victims through a second trauma," Linda Wong Sau-yung, of the Association Concerning Sexual Violence Against Women, said. "What he said has distressed many of those who have been violated.

"He has rubbed salt into victims' wounds, so he should apologise for that."

Wong said they had received calls on their sexual abuse hotline from upset victims.

"He needs to withdraw the statement," she said. "It may have been a gentle reminder, and I don't doubt his good intentions, but it's also a judgment - an incorrect judgment and assumption. I'm worried this wrong logic will cause women to misunderstand and think that if they drink less, they'll avoid being raped."

Si-si Liu Pui-shan, from the Federation of Women's Centres, said: "Research tells us that most women who suffer sexual violence don't report it out of shame, and his statement affirms these fears and feelings.

"He explained his intentions, but intentions are one thing; the effects are another. What he has done is put the blame on the girls."

Liu said it raised concerns about how low on the agenda gender issues were for high-ranking officials.

"Anyone who knows anything about gender issues would know this is not something right to say. Lai is just one example."

Lawmakers Helena Wong Pik-wan and Claudia Mo Man-ching also called for an apology, with Wong saying Lai should consider resigning.

 

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the sun also rises
if secretary for security,Mr.Lai Tung-kwok's views on the relationship between drinking and rape are correct.Then our pretty ladies can avoid being raped once they drink less ! What an absurd remark it sounds ! Yet his words are supported by pro-establishment Exco.& Legco member,Broomhead Ip Lau who stands out to support Lai shamelessly and unconvincingly. Of course,this old lady(widow) will never be raped for drinking (no matter how much she drinks) since she is already over 60 though wearing heavy make-up and decorated with a pearl necklace which costs dozens of thousands at least ! Lai angers the public by saying that a male cop photoed bear-hugged a female protesting student was an isolated incident and he could not determine whether the act of the male middle-aged officer was right or not.But according to a lawyer, the protesters outside the Caritas school in Tseung Kwun O did not breach the Public Security Ordinance since their number is under 50 and they did not commit any violent acts but were forcefully towed away by an all-male cops under the command of a superintendent who wrongly said that the protesters had violated Public Security Ordinance and took part in an unlawful gathering by staging a sitting-in in a public place----totally misleading !
Dai Muff
"our pretty ladies can avoid being raped once they drink less ! " He did not say that. You did. He spoke specifically about victims who HAD been attacked while drunk. Read the reports.
daily
No need to apologize...........those idiotic women groups just like to protest against everything even when the drinking too much warning is good for them.............just let them get drunk if they want and see what happens..........
Dai Muff
When "women's groups" campaign against sensible advice, they are putting misandrist ideology BEFORE actually caring about the welfare of women. No it is not a judgement. And no he is not saying you won't get raped if you keep your senses about you. But your chances are improved.
hkbulib2
Good for him. In general, everyone should avoid drinking too much to avoid getting into situations that compromise their safety. it is common sense. I hope he stands his ground.

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