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Edward Snowden: US government has been hacking Hong Kong and China for years

Former CIA operative makes more explosive claims and says Washington is ‘bullying’ Hong Kong to extradite him

PUBLISHED : Thursday, 13 June, 2013, 12:50am
UPDATED : Friday, 14 June, 2013, 4:05am
 

US whistle-blower Edward Snowden yesterday emerged from hiding in Hong Kong and revealed to the South China Morning Post that he will stay in the city to fight likely attempts by his government to have him extradited for leaking state secrets.

In an exclusive interview carried out from a secret location in the city, the former Central Intelligence Agency analyst also made explosive claims that the US government had been hacking into computers in Hong Kong and on the mainland for years.

At Snowden’s request we cannot divulge details about how the interview was conducted.

A week since revelations that the US has been secretly collecting phone and online data of its citizens, he said he will stay in the city “until I am asked to leave”, adding: “I have had many opportunities to flee HK, but I would rather stay and fight the US government in the courts, because I have faith in HK’s rule of law.”

In a frank hour-long interview, the 29-year-old, who US authorities have confirmed is now the subject of a criminal case, said he was neither a hero nor a traitor and that:

  • US National Security Agency’s controversial Prism programme extends to people and institutions in Hong Kong and mainland China;
  • The US is exerting “bullying’’ diplomatic pressure on Hong Kong to extradite him;
  • Hong Kong’s rule of law will protect him from the US;
  • He is in constant fear for his own safety and that of his family.

Snowden has been in Hong Kong since May 20 when he fled his home in Hawaii to take refuge here, a move which has been questioned by many who believe the city cannot protect him.

“People who think I made a mistake in picking HK as a location misunderstand my intentions. I am not here to hide from justice, I am here to reveal criminality,” he said.

Snowden said that according to unverified documents seen by the Post, the NSA had been hacking computers in Hong Kong and on the mainland since 2009. None of the documents revealed any information about Chinese military systems, he said.

I’m neither traitor nor hero. I’m an American

One of the targets in the SAR, according to Snowden, was Chinese University and public officials, businesses and students in the city. The documents also point to hacking activity by the NSA against mainland targets.

Snowden believed there had been more than 61,000 NSA hacking operations globally, with hundreds of targets in Hong Kong and on the mainland.

“We hack network backbones – like huge internet routers, basically – that give us access to the communications of hundreds of thousands of computers without having to hack every single one,” he said.

“Last week the American government happily operated in the shadows with no respect for the consent of the governed, but no longer. Every level of society is demanding accountability and oversight.”

Snowden said he was releasing the information to demonstrate “the hypocrisy of the US government when it claims that it does not target civilian infrastructure, unlike its adversaries”.

“Not only does it do so, but it is so afraid of this being known that it is willing to use any means, such as diplomatic intimidation, to prevent this information from becoming public.”

Since the shocking revelations a week ago, Snowden has been vilified as a defector but also hailed by supporters such as WikiLeaks’ Julian Assange.

“I’m neither traitor nor hero. I’m an American,” he said, adding that he was proud to be an American. “I believe in freedom of expression. I acted in good faith but it is only right that the public form its own opinion.”

Snowden said he had not contacted his family and feared for their safety as well as his own.

“I will never feel safe.

“Things are very difficult for me in all terms, but speaking truth to power is never without risk,” he said. “It has been difficult, but I have been glad to see the global public speak out against these sorts of systemic violations of privacy.

“All I can do is rely on my training and hope that world governments will refuse to be bullied by the United States into persecuting people seeking political refuge.”

Asked if he had been offered asylum by the Russian government, he said: “My only comment is that I am glad there are governments that refuse to be intimidated by great power”.

The interview comes on the same day NSA chief General Keith Alexander appeared before Congress to defend his agency over the leaks. It was his first appearance since the explosive revelations were made last week. Alexander’s prepared remarks did not specifically address revelations about the Prism program.

Snowden's revelations threaten to test new attempts to build US-Sino bridges after a weekend summit in California between the nations' presidents, Barack Obama and Xi Jinping.

If true, Snowden's allegations lend credence to China's longstanding position that it is as much a victim of hacking as a perpetrator, after Obama pressed Xi to rein in cyber-espionage by the Chinese military.

Tens of thousands of Snowden’s supporters have signed a petition calling for his pardon in the United States while many have donated money to a fund to help him.

“I’m very grateful for the support of the public,” he said. “But I ask that they act in their interest – save their money for letters to the government that breaks the law and claims it noble.

“The reality is that I have acted at great personal risk to help the public of the world, regardless of whether that public is American, European, or Asian.”

The US consulate in Hong Kong could not be contacted yesterday on a public holiday.

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RinerDaniel
GOOD! I am glad we have been hacking them. I hope we send them STUXNET 3.0. They steal $200-$300 Billion of Intellectual property a year from american companies, according to Jon Huntsman’s analysis, the former Ambassador to China. There is literally no, net benefit of sending jobs overseas, because the value saved on labor gets ripped off anyways.
They hacked into both the DNC and GOP’s personal computers in 2008, as well as stole billions of TOP SECRET classified data and information from the Pentagon about our F-22, and other advanced missiles and vehicles.
I hope we hack and let them know that we are not to be messed with. You don’t get by in this world by just pretending the Chinese, Iranians, Pakistani, Russian, and even Indians won’t hack you. If you know one thing, the Chinese think they are the rightful heirs to the world superpower because they were once the most powerful. The Chinese only care about Rich/poor and Strong vs Weak paradigms. They don’t have the luxury of 1000s of years of Judeo-Christian culture and influence.
I am not trying to make a harsh judgement, this is just the truth. They isolated themselves from the rest of the world and avoided most other cultural influences other than Buddhism and Islamism, so now their prima facie atheist communist CCP members have amassed so much wealth in China for themselves and their family it is reprehensible. If you are opening a business in China, you must give a bribe to the local municipal authorities.
Carparklee
Look forward to seeing next Hollywood blockbuster: <Bourne Legacy 2: Program Prism>
outright.conjob
the nsa said it was all a lie, so snowden is not a traitor, he is just a liar, according to them. so how are they gonna convict him of anything without it being an admission of guilt?
Azleresident
I've said it before and I'll say it again, "if the US would keep their damn noses out of everybody else's business and take care of our own, the entire world would be better off!
"Defend the borders and deliver the mail", they no longer have the wherewithal to do either!
john.r.kenny
This guy should be shot for revealing that the NSA is hacking China. We SHOULD be hacking China. We should bring the whole goddamned wretched nation to it's electronic knees. Goddamned worthless Communist scum. Yeah, I said it. I don't care if he reveals that NSA is monitoring Americans. The NSA monitoring Americans is absolutely evil and wrong. NSA hacking China is righteous, and good.
xesenta
Americans have the WRONG reaction to all this. This guy is a rat, and a traitor. Would you trust a LIAR who rats on another LIAR? My god - look to British history and older nations who have gone thru this time and again. Today Britain has a stronger identity because we've survived treachery a thousands times! Learn yankees! xx
preventallwas.org
Edward Snowden’s actions prove that official and military secrets will never again be as covered. Instant Digital Information Technology ruins the canopy of secrecy over national governments and military establishments. This has valid implications for such age-old, planned but dreadful events as war. Can any military power sustain them?
Military force against any enemy is soon noticed by the world and weakened by protests. Results of USA’s vast military assets against a rag-tagged Taliban or the sharing of vital industrial and military secrets with China come to mind.
Instant Digital technology use is simple and electronic spying will grow. NOTHING CAN STOP IT! Even USA’s gov., and perhaps others, utilizes this reality against their own citizens. THEREFORE POSSESSION OF OVERWHELMING MILITARY POWER IS INCREASINGLY USELESS AND UTTERLY WASTEFUL FOR NATIONAL ECONOMIES.
The above stresses need for the very efficient and enforceable global war prevention measures detailed in my book, Unchecked, They’ll Kill Us All. THE ENFORCEMENT NEEDS NO ARMED FORCES FOR EFFECT!
However war advocacy continue. They use more deadly weapons; swell global insecurity, refugee crises and civilian trauma.
Since national leaders who create wars are protected from the ensuing mayhem (their soldiers die instead), the clear limitations on war by the technologies and the new ideas in the book are conveniently ignored.
So, many more Edward Snowdens’ or Bradley Mannings' will manifest.
rich.pope.90
He's a hero in my book. Unfortunately, letters written to Washington won't do anything. Our "leaders" have already decided they are above the law and will not stop.
jim.bunion
The US Govt. are the biggest criminals in the World.
Sugelanren
By that reasoning, all Governments are criminals and that puts China right up there too!

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