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Edward Snowden: US government has been hacking Hong Kong and China for years

Former CIA operative makes more explosive claims and says Washington is ‘bullying’ Hong Kong to extradite him

PUBLISHED : Thursday, 13 June, 2013, 12:50am
UPDATED : Friday, 14 June, 2013, 4:05am

US whistle-blower Edward Snowden yesterday emerged from hiding in Hong Kong and revealed to the South China Morning Post that he will stay in the city to fight likely attempts by his government to have him extradited for leaking state secrets.

In an exclusive interview carried out from a secret location in the city, the former Central Intelligence Agency analyst also made explosive claims that the US government had been hacking into computers in Hong Kong and on the mainland for years.

At Snowden’s request we cannot divulge details about how the interview was conducted.

A week since revelations that the US has been secretly collecting phone and online data of its citizens, he said he will stay in the city “until I am asked to leave”, adding: “I have had many opportunities to flee HK, but I would rather stay and fight the US government in the courts, because I have faith in HK’s rule of law.”

In a frank hour-long interview, the 29-year-old, who US authorities have confirmed is now the subject of a criminal case, said he was neither a hero nor a traitor and that:

  • US National Security Agency’s controversial Prism programme extends to people and institutions in Hong Kong and mainland China;
  • The US is exerting “bullying’’ diplomatic pressure on Hong Kong to extradite him;
  • Hong Kong’s rule of law will protect him from the US;
  • He is in constant fear for his own safety and that of his family.

Snowden has been in Hong Kong since May 20 when he fled his home in Hawaii to take refuge here, a move which has been questioned by many who believe the city cannot protect him.

“People who think I made a mistake in picking HK as a location misunderstand my intentions. I am not here to hide from justice, I am here to reveal criminality,” he said.

Snowden said that according to unverified documents seen by the Post, the NSA had been hacking computers in Hong Kong and on the mainland since 2009. None of the documents revealed any information about Chinese military systems, he said.

I’m neither traitor nor hero. I’m an American

One of the targets in the SAR, according to Snowden, was Chinese University and public officials, businesses and students in the city. The documents also point to hacking activity by the NSA against mainland targets.

Snowden believed there had been more than 61,000 NSA hacking operations globally, with hundreds of targets in Hong Kong and on the mainland.

“We hack network backbones – like huge internet routers, basically – that give us access to the communications of hundreds of thousands of computers without having to hack every single one,” he said.

“Last week the American government happily operated in the shadows with no respect for the consent of the governed, but no longer. Every level of society is demanding accountability and oversight.”

Snowden said he was releasing the information to demonstrate “the hypocrisy of the US government when it claims that it does not target civilian infrastructure, unlike its adversaries”.

“Not only does it do so, but it is so afraid of this being known that it is willing to use any means, such as diplomatic intimidation, to prevent this information from becoming public.”

Since the shocking revelations a week ago, Snowden has been vilified as a defector but also hailed by supporters such as WikiLeaks’ Julian Assange.

“I’m neither traitor nor hero. I’m an American,” he said, adding that he was proud to be an American. “I believe in freedom of expression. I acted in good faith but it is only right that the public form its own opinion.”

Snowden said he had not contacted his family and feared for their safety as well as his own.

“I will never feel safe.

“Things are very difficult for me in all terms, but speaking truth to power is never without risk,” he said. “It has been difficult, but I have been glad to see the global public speak out against these sorts of systemic violations of privacy.

“All I can do is rely on my training and hope that world governments will refuse to be bullied by the United States into persecuting people seeking political refuge.”

Asked if he had been offered asylum by the Russian government, he said: “My only comment is that I am glad there are governments that refuse to be intimidated by great power”.

The interview comes on the same day NSA chief General Keith Alexander appeared before Congress to defend his agency over the leaks. It was his first appearance since the explosive revelations were made last week. Alexander’s prepared remarks did not specifically address revelations about the Prism program.

Snowden's revelations threaten to test new attempts to build US-Sino bridges after a weekend summit in California between the nations' presidents, Barack Obama and Xi Jinping.

If true, Snowden's allegations lend credence to China's longstanding position that it is as much a victim of hacking as a perpetrator, after Obama pressed Xi to rein in cyber-espionage by the Chinese military.

Tens of thousands of Snowden’s supporters have signed a petition calling for his pardon in the United States while many have donated money to a fund to help him.

“I’m very grateful for the support of the public,” he said. “But I ask that they act in their interest – save their money for letters to the government that breaks the law and claims it noble.

“The reality is that I have acted at great personal risk to help the public of the world, regardless of whether that public is American, European, or Asian.”

The US consulate in Hong Kong could not be contacted yesterday on a public holiday.

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outright.conjob
the nsa said it was all a lie, so snowden is not a traitor, he is just a liar, according to them. so how are they gonna convict him of anything without it being an admission of guilt?
pseudotriton
If you wanna spy on each other, fine. Then stop whining about others hacking your computers, like a little kid throwing a fit about his toy has been taken by other kids, when he actually stole the toy in the first place. Boohoohoo...
RuthieInTheSky
To Edward Snowden: I bet you have heard the classic rock song, Hold Your Head Up, recorded by the group, Argent, in 1972. If I ever heard a piece of music that fits what you are doing now, Ed...it's that song. I can just picture the group singing that song, proudly when they march this Saturday. And then there's good ol' Tom Petty's standard, Won't Back Down. The final favorite that brings me back to your efforts is Revolution by The Beatles.
What I am trying to say, Ed, my friend, is that your actions are bringing the world back to 1967.
And this time around...it's up to us all to bring back the freedom, rights and respect that we all should have.
I didn't buy one word that came out of that NSA-version of Mr. Rogers, yesterday. That clown dressed up like Captain Kangaroo and spewed verbal balderdash all over the Senate floor. Yeah, it was really something to watch that guy chew on his own lies like they were a bad pieces of gristle!
You have the power in your hands, now, Ed. Use it bravely. Thank you for telling the truth. Your Sister in the fight--Ruthie the Hitchhiker.
richieskerr
Ed Snowden's "crime" was informing the American public of the depth and pervasiveness of the surveillance and snooping conducted against them by the NSA. The vast bulk of the information was collected against ordinary citizens. It is not clear at all that he jeopardized the security of United States, unless exposing the spying conducted by the NSA against the citizens of the United States, was in some way damaging to the Government of United States. This could only be the case if the interests of the Government of the United States do not fundamentally coincide with the interests of its own citizens.
Bubble Burster
Notice that this mass spying on innocent legal Americans started in 2009. Obama's first term started in 2008. Obama is the one that is "fundamentally transforming" the United States into something hideous.
jayb
vincelee76, you are saying..
1. since China is worse violator of human rights than US, so we should turn a blind eye on US' violation of her own ethos? you did not read US Congressional hearing (Senate Intelligence Committee, one Senator Ron Wyden) who found NSA lying to him due to Snowden's whistle blowing? you did not read the latest Reuters poll showing more american believe Snowden is a patriot than a traitor? you did not read ACLU is suing Obama for violating american's 4th amendment rights due to Snowden?
2. since the guy is not making any money, that he has just totally ruined his own life after revealing Obama's crime on the Constitution, on targeting patriotic americans with IRS, so he must be trying to win his "15 seconds of fame."?
3. US protected all of asia democratic countries, including hongkong. you don't even read newspaper. you don't know the wars in Nam? you don't know US totally turned a deaf ear to hongkong when Thatcher attempted to talk US to give hongkong citizens green cards pre-97....
go get some Kool Aid...you badly need some Kool Aid...
captam
@"The US consulate in Hong Kong could not be contacted yesterday on a public holiday"
Wow! Do U.S. spies get Hong Kong's statutory holidays as well as all American holidays? At a rough count, using Tom Holland's methodology, that means they only work about 150 days a year!
bluefirestorm
Snowden is real joke. He should do HK a favour by leaving HK now!!!
What he claimed in this first place wasn't surprising (NSA is doing spying work!!). And now he claims US hacks HK and China. So this is suppose to be news?!?!?!?!
He only talks about "HK rule of law" and "HK press freedom" so as to gain support from HK.
HK and China does not need Snowden. I don't think any country needs him!
moontiger
There is not personal freedom – without personal privacy!
alec.lee.756
Chinese University of Hong Kong is hosting the HK Internet Exchange
****www.hkix.net/hkix/whatishkix.htm

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