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Edward Snowden: US government has been hacking Hong Kong and China for years

Former CIA operative makes more explosive claims and says Washington is ‘bullying’ Hong Kong to extradite him

PUBLISHED : Thursday, 13 June, 2013, 12:50am
UPDATED : Friday, 14 June, 2013, 4:05am

US whistle-blower Edward Snowden yesterday emerged from hiding in Hong Kong and revealed to the South China Morning Post that he will stay in the city to fight likely attempts by his government to have him extradited for leaking state secrets.

In an exclusive interview carried out from a secret location in the city, the former Central Intelligence Agency analyst also made explosive claims that the US government had been hacking into computers in Hong Kong and on the mainland for years.

At Snowden’s request we cannot divulge details about how the interview was conducted.

A week since revelations that the US has been secretly collecting phone and online data of its citizens, he said he will stay in the city “until I am asked to leave”, adding: “I have had many opportunities to flee HK, but I would rather stay and fight the US government in the courts, because I have faith in HK’s rule of law.”

In a frank hour-long interview, the 29-year-old, who US authorities have confirmed is now the subject of a criminal case, said he was neither a hero nor a traitor and that:

  • US National Security Agency’s controversial Prism programme extends to people and institutions in Hong Kong and mainland China;
  • The US is exerting “bullying’’ diplomatic pressure on Hong Kong to extradite him;
  • Hong Kong’s rule of law will protect him from the US;
  • He is in constant fear for his own safety and that of his family.

Snowden has been in Hong Kong since May 20 when he fled his home in Hawaii to take refuge here, a move which has been questioned by many who believe the city cannot protect him.

“People who think I made a mistake in picking HK as a location misunderstand my intentions. I am not here to hide from justice, I am here to reveal criminality,” he said.

Snowden said that according to unverified documents seen by the Post, the NSA had been hacking computers in Hong Kong and on the mainland since 2009. None of the documents revealed any information about Chinese military systems, he said.

I’m neither traitor nor hero. I’m an American

One of the targets in the SAR, according to Snowden, was Chinese University and public officials, businesses and students in the city. The documents also point to hacking activity by the NSA against mainland targets.

Snowden believed there had been more than 61,000 NSA hacking operations globally, with hundreds of targets in Hong Kong and on the mainland.

“We hack network backbones – like huge internet routers, basically – that give us access to the communications of hundreds of thousands of computers without having to hack every single one,” he said.

“Last week the American government happily operated in the shadows with no respect for the consent of the governed, but no longer. Every level of society is demanding accountability and oversight.”

Snowden said he was releasing the information to demonstrate “the hypocrisy of the US government when it claims that it does not target civilian infrastructure, unlike its adversaries”.

“Not only does it do so, but it is so afraid of this being known that it is willing to use any means, such as diplomatic intimidation, to prevent this information from becoming public.”

Since the shocking revelations a week ago, Snowden has been vilified as a defector but also hailed by supporters such as WikiLeaks’ Julian Assange.

“I’m neither traitor nor hero. I’m an American,” he said, adding that he was proud to be an American. “I believe in freedom of expression. I acted in good faith but it is only right that the public form its own opinion.”

Snowden said he had not contacted his family and feared for their safety as well as his own.

“I will never feel safe.

“Things are very difficult for me in all terms, but speaking truth to power is never without risk,” he said. “It has been difficult, but I have been glad to see the global public speak out against these sorts of systemic violations of privacy.

“All I can do is rely on my training and hope that world governments will refuse to be bullied by the United States into persecuting people seeking political refuge.”

Asked if he had been offered asylum by the Russian government, he said: “My only comment is that I am glad there are governments that refuse to be intimidated by great power”.

The interview comes on the same day NSA chief General Keith Alexander appeared before Congress to defend his agency over the leaks. It was his first appearance since the explosive revelations were made last week. Alexander’s prepared remarks did not specifically address revelations about the Prism program.

Snowden's revelations threaten to test new attempts to build US-Sino bridges after a weekend summit in California between the nations' presidents, Barack Obama and Xi Jinping.

If true, Snowden's allegations lend credence to China's longstanding position that it is as much a victim of hacking as a perpetrator, after Obama pressed Xi to rein in cyber-espionage by the Chinese military.

Tens of thousands of Snowden’s supporters have signed a petition calling for his pardon in the United States while many have donated money to a fund to help him.

“I’m very grateful for the support of the public,” he said. “But I ask that they act in their interest – save their money for letters to the government that breaks the law and claims it noble.

“The reality is that I have acted at great personal risk to help the public of the world, regardless of whether that public is American, European, or Asian.”

The US consulate in Hong Kong could not be contacted yesterday on a public holiday.

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steveyuhas2
This is a revelation that only Snowden could make? I would HOPE that United States was trying to crack the codes of China (at the very least) and now Hong Kong (if they have anything we need). After all, fair is fair. If the unclassified report dealing with China's stealing of intellectual property is even half correct, China is stealing hundreds of billions of dollars worth of intellectual property - from defense to medical devices and everything in between. If we're NOT spying on our adversaries then we're not doing what we should do. When Snowden's claims after working for the NSA for only three weeks don't pan out, I hope they just shoot him.
T.A.Anderson
Yes, huge revelation . . . NSA is snooping. LMAO. Are people, including the media, really this clueless?
Here is the funniest part yet. Snowden professes faith in the Hong Kong (PRC) legal system. LMFAO. Guess he truly is lacking in education. What Congress should be investing is how such a fool could actually have access to anything important, if he did.
HK-Explorer
Hong Kong was a very smart place for Edward to go.
- Hong Kong government is not very popular. Thus they won't want to make any decisions now.
- Hong Kong follows the rule of law
- China won't see the rush to return Edward to US. Nice way to remind people of china that us is not so free.
- US probably won't push too hard for Edwards return. He has already spilled the beans. It also won't be politically wise as some people may agree with what he did. Also they don't want to be seen as a bully. Best leave it a couple of years.
- no one will try and kill or kidnap Edward. This would just make him a matre.
So it is in everyone best interest to leave this as is for a couple of years. There will be some sabre rattling in US. Edward will write a book. Maybe a movie - his girlfriend would make that a bit more interesting.
anson
What's wrong with Singapore, or the old favourite US runaway havens - Mexico and Canada? Why do we have to foot the bill for this shenanigans? Why do we have watch CY being interviewed in the US? We thought we'd got shot of him for a few days and now he's no commenting us from across the Pacific. US Gov't, either you come and get your 'spy hero' or we won't accept CY back. You can keep him!
sparxasia
...tell me that China hasn't been doing that (hacking the US) for years either? The US has a right to defend itself.
david.schneider.9638
I could care less if the NSA are watching me. They have always watched everyone. Who cares? What freedoms have I been denied by them doing this. None.
If he did not like what they were doing he did not have to take the large paychecks they issued him. Same for all government operators.
If I do not like my employer I quit. No matter what. If he does not like the US politics he could have quit. He took an oath. So he stands for nothing along with anyone in any agency who compromise freedoms or policy.
All large nations spy. No matter what they tell you. They all do it and can get your information in a flash. Who cares. That is what they do and they will continue to do it until people stop living in fear of each other's race or nationality of politics.
Is he a patriot? No.
Is he a hero? No
Is he helping the world by coming forward? Doubt it.
It just feeds stories like these for people to have an opinion to distract them from what the people really care about: Jobs and education and toilets that flush and do not back up.
He has watched too many Bourne Identity movies.He needs help.
The NSA and CIA and the KGB and the PLA all do this and if we have not believed they have done these things for years with the cooperations of the rich and powerful and we are very blind.
Who really cares. What do you have to hide?
The only thing I look at is keeping data on me and many people I know is a huge waste of money. Plain and simple.
Made in Thailand
Snowden is a COWARD and a TRAITOR to his country!! Hope he stays in Hong Kong and ends up eating squid burgers the rest of his life. I am an american that had a secret clearance once and though I didn't agree with everything I saw or heard, I kept my mouth shut like I promised when I signed on the dotted line. This so called "man" has no honor and should be treated like a fleeing traitor and any newspaper that exposes stolen govt secrets should be prosecuted too.
carmeledwin
Why should we trust the US Government when history shows us that they are hypocrites and cannot be trusted.
scootervanneuter
This isn't any big revelation. How should our country react to another that's stealing our military and civilian secrets?
This kid is a traitor, nothing less -
wallaceapex
News?
Uh, China hacked Google email a few years ago, and Google retaliated by flooding the Hong Kong domain.
Until China calls a truce, all is fair in love and cyber war.
Any questions?

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