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Pro-Beijing camp woo pan-democrats with ‘exclusive’ talks for Shanghai visit

Pro-Beijing figures 'will find a way' for rivals to have private meeting with officials in Shanghai

PUBLISHED : Monday, 31 March, 2014, 11:26pm
UPDATED : Tuesday, 01 April, 2014, 7:29am

Pressure is growing on pan-democrat lawmakers to join a trip to Shanghai after pro-government figures said they would find a way for them to have an exclusive meeting with Beijing officials.

This emerged yesterday when one of the hold-outs, Frederick Fung Kin-kee, of the Association for Democracy and People's Livelihood, said he was willing to go after hearing of the gesture.

We still want the central government to give us a reply first on whether the officials are willing to have an exclusive meeting with us
Labour Party lawmaker Cyd Ho Sau-lan 

But other pan-democrats want a guarantee.

"We still want the central government to give us a reply first on whether the officials are willing to have an exclusive meeting with us," Labour Party lawmaker Cyd Ho Sau-lan said.

Only 44 of the 70 lawmakers - and just one pan-democrat, radical "Long-Hair " Leung Kwok-hung - had signed up by the deadline yesterday to join the visit on April 12 and 13 for talks with Beijing officials on Hong Kong's political reform.

Pan-democrats have demanded an exclusive meeting with the director of the State Council's Hong Kong and Macau Affairs Office Wang Guangya , Basic Law Committee chairman Li Fei and central government liaison office director Zhang Xiaoming .

Pro-Beijing figures including Legislative Council president Jasper Tsang Yok-sing believe such an arrangement is possible.

Yesterday Fung quoted Tsang as saying he had heard of the possibility that establishment lawmakers would excuse themselves from a meeting with the Beijing officials to give pan-democrats an exclusive audience.

"While the pro-establishment camp hopes an exclusive meeting can be arranged for pan-democrats, [Tsang] heard that some pro-Beijing lawmakers are willing to stay away and let pan-democrats have an [exclusive] dialogue with the officials," Fung said.

Lawmaker Wong Kwok-kin said he believed most of his pro-Beijing allies would agree to such an arrangement. "We really hope - and would be very glad - to see pan-democrats finally start a rational discussion with Beijing officials on reform," he said.

But Ip Kwok-him, of the Democratic Alliance for the Betterment and Progress of Hong Kong, said he would respect the arrangements made by mainland officials.

Ho said the pan-democratic camp, which meets today, could make a decision by Thursday, when all parties would have consulted their members.



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It's getting to the point that nobody should care if the Pan Dems go or not...............they are a bunch of immature and foolish politicians "wannabe" that are acting like crybabies.
Really hope that the Pan Dems would just vanish and get out of HK politics. That's the best thing they can do for HK.
Then the pro-establishment camp will really start to worry as some people of better caliber might fill the vacuum LOL.
A lesson learned from Taiwan's democratization in its early years is the mole planted by Japan inside Kuomintang, Lee Tenghui, who by all accounts was a strong supporter of Taiwan independence and an advocate for Japanese sovereignty over Diaoyu Islands.
It's helpful for other legislators to stay home and let pan democrats meet Chinese authorities one-on-one. This will allow China to focus its interrogation on the saboteurs and potential moles who take marching orders from Lee Tenghui, Taiwan DPP and the Japanese.
It is also fair for the pan democrats that those with constructive intent for Hong Kong well being are not discriminated by the nomination process.
Yup, interrogate them one by one - that would be good for HK people to weed out the traitors and imposters. Of course I believe there are some who genuinely care for the good of HK.
But they won't go, mak. If the Chinese do agree to their demands, they would lose all their politcal capital - there would be no more issue to exploit for support.
I like your "helpful" and "fair" arguments
They look shxx like the depressing weather we are experiencing now, a genuine reflection of their mind. Seriously hopeless!!!
One wonders if this sojourn to Shanghai by the Hong Kong SAR legislators is worth the public money being spent on the trip to the tune of HKD7800 for each member as it is totally unlikely to achieve the objective whatever it may be! On the contrary, it could have been done by organizing a video-conference with the Mainland officials who have agreed to hold an exclusive discussion with the legislators!
I understand that people no longer bargain in wet markets
you either take the offer or go to the next stall
“democrats” who aren’t familiar with today’s wet market
should know that politicians can’t behave like small-feet women
As “democrats” why do they insist on “exclusive talk”?
why the secrecy, the privileges and the necessity?
why other legco members should accord them the exclusivity
as if “democrats” are the only ones with the only meaningful discussion
whereas in fact most “democrats” are pretentious loud bigots
still deluded by shibboleths inculcated in the colonial era
Never any practical ideas about what next after 1P1V
Ignoring their drastic defeats in recent local elections
trouble-making has become these “democrats’” only bargaining chip
I am very perturbed by the much hacked look of these legislators in the photo. Why they looked so hacked. Are they so bounded by their way how they see the Shanghai meeting that the sense of duty-bound is totally out of the window? Haven’t you all been paid for a job you must perform? We know you all haven’t been really delivering even though I never have seen such hacked look.
Rest the case and go because you must go to represent your followers in Hong Kong or resign now.
Despite his accustomed theatrical and unruly behavior in public affairs, I am glad Leung Kwok-hung has signed up for the Shanghai trip. He is like the rest of the legislators are obligated to represent Hong Kong people for the unusual occasion, Leung especially for his loyal followers.
Secondly, Leung knows well he will safely return to Hong Kong after the meeting. Years ago, he travelled up north to visit his mother who was ill.
It is my hope that he would resist from his expected usual performance and proves to himself and all others that he needs not do so to get his thought across in Shanghai and later in Hong Kong forever.




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