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No need for photos, just point us to the toilet, say mainland tourists

As competition seeks pictures of mainlanders relieving themselves in public, tourists say better signage may be more constructive

PUBLISHED : Thursday, 01 May, 2014, 2:31pm
UPDATED : Friday, 02 May, 2014, 12:22pm
 

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Mainland visitors called yesterday for more signs pointing to public toilets in Hong Kong and help instead of confrontation from locals - as the row over a mainland toddler's urination on a Mong Kok street stretched into the "golden week" holiday.

As a protest was being held against mainland tourists in the popular shopping destination of Tsim Sha Tsui, an online photography competition was launched in a Mong Kok pedestrian zone, with organisers calling for pictures of mainlanders relieving themselves in public.

But a call for a "pee in Hong Kong" mass protest by mainlanders in response to last week's viral circulation of a video of the urinating toddler appeared to have drawn no participants.

By yesterday evening, more than 800 Facebook users had clicked "attend" on the photography contest's event page but only one picture had been posted, of a little girl relieving herself beside a rubbish bin with no indication of where or when it was taken.

Lin Shanglan, a Shenzhen resident who visited Ocean Park yesterday, said the Mong Kok boy's parents should have set a good example and taken him to a toilet instead of letting him urinate in the street. But she said it was not easy for many tourists visiting Hong Kong for the first time to find the nearest toilets.

"The government should put up more signs so people know where the toilets are," she said.

Toilet read offers advice for mainland visitors caught short

Pan Lingling, 31, who came to Hong Kong from Zhejiang with her two-year-old daughter, said public urination was understandable when children, who could not control their bladders, needed to relieve themselves urgently.

"But they could have found a more discreet place," she said, adding that it was not difficult to find public toilets.

Michael Ho, 28, father of a three-year-old, said it was embarrassing for children to urinate while being watched by dozens of people in the streets.

"Just use the toilets when children need to pee, they're free of charge. You should bring diapers when you go out with young children," he said.

Wang Xun, who came to Hong Kong from Shanghai with his parents, wife and son, said he felt the incident was "rather trivial".

He said he believed people from Hong Kong and the mainland should not confront each other and overreact.

One scuffle did break out yesterday between a mainland man and a backer of the photography competition at its public launch in Mong Kok.

The two were separated by police.

Contest organiser Leung Kam-shing said entrants were encouraged to advise offenders against unhygienic behaviour before taking photos or videos.

"We are doing this in response to mainland internet users calling on mainlanders to come and pee and poop in Hong Kong's streets," said Leung, leader of a series of anti-mainlander protests previously.

Another group, who had previously rallied to urge mainlanders to go home and buy mainland goods, continued their campaign in Tsim Sha Tsui yesterday.

Organisers estimated that about 100 people took part.

Organiser Eric Leung said this might be his last protest as he had run out of new ideas.

His group has been dressing up as red guards, symbol of the Cultural Revolution. Leung referred to their rallies as "patriotic movements".

Watch: Urinating child altercation that began latest uproar

 

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nicolas
Building up more and putting sign directing to public toilet are a good sign for tourist. But I think it doesn't help those mainlanders. It's all about how their parents teach and educate their children. Good etiquette and manners always start at home. Which means, all the fault should be blame on the communist government for not giving proper education toward their citizens. Shouting, spitting, urinating and even defacating are all common scene in the mainland. Even in a broad daylight with populated places. Because the government are doing nothing and they can accept or tolerate such an illiterate action and uncivilized behaviour of their people without being fined or penalized. Remember 11 years ago when an outbreak of "SARS" pandemic was originated from mainland, China. In fact the communist government tried to cover up this pandemic. Unsuccessfully, they have to admit their fault due to the fast spread of this disease. Proper hygiene and good sanitation are so important to everyone. Therefore, it's everyone responsibility to keep the city clean whether you are a local or tourist. No excuses should be accepted...ALWAYS BE PREPARED WHEN YOU GO OUT, ESPECIALLY WHEN ACCOMPANIED WITH A CHILD. PUBLIC EDUCATION FOR PROPER HYGIENE AND SANITATON SHOULD BE CARRIED OUT MORE OFTEN IN MAINLAND, CHINA. THIS COMMUNIST GOVERNMENT ARE SO CORRUPT THAT'S WHY THEY NEVER THINK OF SUCH THINGS. THEY EVEN JOINED THE MEDIA AND CAMPAIGNING AGAINST THE HK PEOPLE FOR THEIR STUPID ACT
johnwe
I agree entirely with the suggestion that more signs pointing to toilets is all that is needed to solve the problem. There are almost no signs and when there are they may not be where you suddenly need to look for something - not just the loo.. Most restaurants tell you simply that the loo is only for patrons. When you are in a strange place it is difficult to find many basic things.To the Hongkongers, I say, usr some common sense for Gods sake.
The couple who confronted them were just nasty and aggressive beyond minimum levels of courtesy. Show them where they can take the baby instead of trying to shame them in front of everyone and the go viral. Those who staged the poo and & session were cretins, put simply, who resort to the crudest and lowest level of sarcasm..
skywalker
Are there not any more important topics?
Carparklee
Eric Leung could have run out of another protest theme until <People's Daily (overseas edition)> or <Global times> publishes another hawkish article for the Hong Kong people, maybe......^_^
irenegab
It really saddens me to see that Hong Kongers have such a hostile attitude towards mainlanders. While we HK citizens point our fingers at mainlanders for their lack of civility especially in public places, we also welcome their contribution to making our society an economically more vibrant one. It seems that we are suffering from schizophrenia.
To me, those protestors who mimicked urinating toddlers are more uncivilized. When we criticize mainlanders for being impolite, have we looked at ourselves and see whether we are indeed any better? Many a times I witness Hong Kongers being rowdy and noisy in public places when travelling overseas.
Not that I condone urinating or even defecating in public, but this was not uncommon in the 50s Hong Kong. If it takes so many years for HK to change, why don't we give them the time?
vanessapmm
To Tolerate Further, Hongkongers Will be Reduced to Animals The recently reported case of a Chinese tourist defaecating in Mong Kok is not only a news headline. On top of intensifying the conflicts between Hong Kong and China, this also signifies the beginning of the defensive war to preserve Hong Kong’s civilisation. Defaecating in public has nothing to do with cultural differences, it is an animal behaviour and Hongkongers generally do not see it as human culture. Defaecating in public is not even a matter of difference in civilisation level, as Hongkongers see this as a behaviour that is far from being “civilised”. It is not a conflict between Hongkongers and Chinese based on public interest, because Chinese media that are endorsed by the CCP supports the “culture” of Chinese coming to Hong Kong and defaecate in public. This is a struggle between China’s government, officials and people, and Hong Kong civilisation. Standing on the opposite side of Hongkongers include Hong Kong SAR Government and its officials during this “war of defending civilisation” because Gregory So Kam-leung sides with China and asked Hongkongers to “tolerate” such illegal behaviour. This incident reveals the saddening downfall of Hong Kong’s civilisation.
On Wednesday (23/April) evening, the “Instant News” of Apple Daily reported that Chinese (PRC) netizens launched a campaign calling a halt ****therealnewshk.wordpress.com/2014/04/27/to-tolerate-further-hongkongers-will-be-reduced-to-animals/
Camel
Really? Let us just ask the opinion of people from other countries who had a look at the video clip on social medias around the world. They feel disgusted not because the little kid urinated on the street, but for the HK guy who mock the family. It was just a little kid, and fact is that in HK it is very hard and difficult to find a toilet. I have kids on my own and I know it.
HKners are losing their superiority to the Mainland and this is how they show their frustration.
"Uncivilized behavior" is bullying a family with a baby kid crying and "illegal actions" are taking photos of naked children.
limpanlinus@gmail.com
I just dont understand why this thing should be such a problem to adress . It should be very easy to just put heavy fines ( like 5000 HK$) if u pee or take a dump in The street and then make sure to realy uphold this law. Then it should not mater where u are from if u face The risk to have to pay a heavy fine then u probebly Think twice before let ur kid take a dump in The street.
airjunky
Hong Kongers have have little moral ground to take on this issue...simply a shameful reaction. It would have been nice if the father of the child pummeled the photographer who was wrestling with him. In fact, we should find out who this guy is and out him for the little man that he is.
johndoe
Great suggestion, more violence, surely would solve everything.

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