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700,000 votes cast in Occupy Central poll, but ballot 'still not credible'

Many voters said they had turned out to the polls due to Beijing's white paper on Hong Kong

PUBLISHED : Sunday, 22 June, 2014, 11:59am
UPDATED : Monday, 23 June, 2014, 5:16pm

More than 700,000 ballots have been cast in an unofficial poll on Hong Kong's electoral reform that a former top mainland official in charge of the city's affairs dismissed yesterday as unrepresentative.

The turnout for the Occupy Central "referendum" was well above expectations, believed to be fuelled by a public backlash against Beijing's reassertion of its sovereignty over the city in a white paper two weeks ago.

But Chen Zuoer, deputy director of the Hong Kong and Macau Affairs Office from 1998 to 2008, said in an exclusive interview with the South China Morning Post the exercise was not a frank indicator of how residents wanted to elect their chief executive in 2017.

Chen also insisted that, as all three proposals shortlisted for the poll violated the Basic Law, it was illegal.

"The media have reported that there are dishonest elements during the process of conducting the public vote, which will result in its failure to truly reflect public opinion," he said, without elaborating on those claims.

What the Occupy Central referendum asks voters

Chen's comments are sure to rile pro-democracy activists, already stung by the white paper, which critics see as a heavy-handed attempt by Beijing to quash support for Occupy Central, the civil movement advocating a democratic election in 2017.

The Occupy poll lists three reform plans, all of which want the public to be able to nominate candidates - an idea Beijing rejects.

About half of 207 voters surveyed yesterday pointed to the white paper as a reason they took part, the Post found in a mini-poll. But the main driving force was a demand for "genuine" universal suffrage - as cited by 90 per cent of the respondents.

Bank manager Lam Chi-ko said he would not have taken part, had the State Council not issued the white paper. "Occupy Central will affect the finance industry. I have been drafting contingency operation plans for my company," Lam said. "But ... there are so many differences between the white paper and the Basic Law, it is like overturning everything."

Our voice must be heard, say voters in unofficial Occupy Central referendum

At the Causeway Bay polling station, a 68-year-old retired teacher said she was merely fulfilling her responsibility to vote, adding: "If I don't come out and make my voice heard today, when should I do it?"

Alex Tsang Chun-kai said it was the white paper that provoked him. "I have seldom taken part in protests, but what drives me this time is really the white paper, which says something like judges should serve the government like a political tool," he said. "Judicial independence can never be compromised."

Ryan Kwok, a 25-year-old social worker, said he had made his way to the poll station in person as he feared that a cyberattack on the online polling platform may have affected his vote.

"I feel more safe if I come along and cast the ballot inside the box, " Kwok said.

State mouthpiece invokes 'defeat of Iron Lady' in editorial denouncing Occupy's public poll

He said the content of the recent white paper has enraged him and made him more determined to vote as a gesture to voice his discontent against the government.

Another voter, who referred to herself as Mrs Ng, said she was a middle-class woman who had not been concerned about politics - until the recent release of Beijing's white paper.

"The mainland government is meddling too much in local affairs, " she said. "This is outragous."

Cheng, a 40 year-old banker who visited the poll with his wife and seven-year-old son, said he wanted to educate his son to be concerned about current affairs.

"It is time for the next generation to know what is happening, as this will affect their future," said Cheung, who preferred to give only his surname.

Members of the pro-government Caring Hong Kong Power gathered at the same station to urge people not to vote in the "illegal" referendum.

Occupy co-organiser Benny Tai Yiu-ting said Chen should beware of dismissing the poll as unlawful. "He will have to bear the responsibility if he misjudges [public sentiment] and gives Beijing the wrong advice," Tai said.

But Secretary for Justice Rimsky Yuen Kwok-keung said the voting could "be regarded as no more than an expression of opinion by the public".

The poll started on the internet on Friday. By midnight, the turnout had exceeded 700,000, including 48,000 voting at 15 polling stations from 10am to 10pm yesterday. The exercise will continue until Sunday, with City University open for voting on evenings this week.

Watch: Hong Kongers defy Beijing to vote in democracy referendum

 


Where you can cast your vote

 

Hong Kong Island:

1. The University of Hong Kong
[G/F,The Hong Kong University Students' Union Building, The University of Hong Kong, Pokfulam, Hong Kong]

2. Hong Kong Professional Teachers’ Union Causeway Bay Service Centre
[M/F Wing Tak Mansion, 15 Canal Road West, Causeway Bay, Hong Kong]

3. 18 Chai Wan Rd
[18 Chai Wan Rd, Shau Kei Wan, Hong Kong]

 

Kowloon:

1. The Hong Kong Polytechnic University
[Room GH201, The Hong Kong Polytechnic University, Hung Hom]

2. City University of Hong Kong
[R4201, 4/F, Amenities Building, City University of Hong Kong, Kowloon Tong]

3. Cheung Sha Wan Job Training Centre, Hong Kong Association for Democracy and People's Livelihood
[Shop 5-7, Trade Square G/F, Cheung Sha Wan Road No. 681]

4. Hong Kong Christian Council Building
[Basement, Christian Ecumenical Building, 33 Granville Road, Tsim Sha Tsui]

5. St Paul’s Parish
[Tung Kun Street, Yau Ma Tei]

6. St. Bonaventure Church
[89 Po Kong Village Road, Tsz Wan Shan]

 

New Territories:

1. Hong Kong Professional Teachers’ Union Tseung Kwan O Centre
[G/F Yan Ming Court Multi Storey Car Park, 100 Po Lam Road North, Tseung Kwan O]

2. Holy Redeemer Catholic Church, Tuen Mun
[Tuen Mun Heung Sze Wui Road, Tuen Mun]

3. Yuen Long Training Centre, Hong Kong Confederation of Trade Unions
[2-8 Tai Cheung Stree, 5/F, THF (Yuen Long) Commercial Building , Yuen Long]

4. Shatin Marden Foundation Secondary School Building (opposite to Sha Tin Government Secondary School)
[18-24 Man Lai Road, Shatin]

5. Neighbourhood & Worker's Service Centre – Tsuen Wan Far East Retraining Centre
[135-143 Castle Peak Road, Far East Centre, Tsuen Wan]

6. Neighbourhood & Worker's Service Centre – Kwai Fong Integrated Service Mutual Help Child Care Centre Limited
[1-3, G/F, Kwai Fong Estate Kwai Yan House, Kwai Chung]

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ejmciii
More mainland idiocy. No one is pushing for independence, even though you get paid to paint it otherwise. We do want autonomy as we are entitled to under the basic law. We are not seeking independence, just to choose our own CE.
Dai Muff
Hysteria much? That is not what anyone, except a very small crazy minority, is asking for. And not what anyone is voting for. Even small villages like Wukan on the mainland get to choose their own leaders. Why should sophisticated citizens of a supposed international city and SAR have fewer rights?

53a68f59-1f58-43d4-8551-74230a320969
The Basic Law guarantees freedom of expression. PopVote is nothing more and nothng less than just applicatoin of this guaranteed right. Being illegal and having no legal binding are two COMPLETELY different things.
Dai Muff
RMY, I think you need to read the Basic Law.
blue
A man chooses, a slave obeys. Are you a man or a slave?
blue
Reg we all know you're a impotent prat and your pimp daddy in Beijing is faced with a conundrum now that there is overwhelming support for Occupy Central. You can scream and shout all you want against genuine universal suffrage, but HK is entitled to it by the Basic Law.

Also comparing HK to a third world nation is comparing apples and oranges. HK style democracy will be nothing like what you see in India. Stop with all the lame strawmen already.

I used to be against Occupy Central, and I am still against public nomination. But Beijing really did an amazing job at convincing me to support Occupy Central with their ridiculously untactful and hamfisted actions the past two weeks.
ejmciii
Then stay home and pray that the masters in Beijing will reject the outcome.
ejmciii
Why because we think for ourselves? You can be a compliant slave but that does not mean the rest must be. How about we decide what is best for HK, tool?
Dai Muff
The only way to sacrifice that interest is to be scared or manipulated into silence by people such as yourself.
ntmount
So RMY why has Beijing already accepted that HK can have universal suffrage, albeit with candidate screening?

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