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Alliance for True Democracy proposal wins Occupy Central poll as nearly 800,000 Hongkongers vote

Number taking part surges to almost 800,000, with 88pc saying Legco should veto any plan that fails to meet international standards

PUBLISHED : Sunday, 29 June, 2014, 10:36pm
UPDATED : Monday, 30 June, 2014, 3:13pm
 

Poll

  • Yes: 19%
  • No: 81%
30 Jun 2014
  • Yes
  • No
Total number of votes recorded: 500

A proposal tabled by the Alliance for True Democracy, a group comprising 26 of the 27 pan-democratic lawmakers, won the unofficial "referendum" on Hong Kong's electoral reform that ended last night.

It secured 331,427 votes, or 42.1 per cent of the 787,767 valid ballots cast during the 10-day exercise, which was organised by the Occupy Central movement.

A joint blueprint put forward by Scholarism and the Federation of Students came second with 302,567 votes (38.4 per cent), followed by a People Power's proposal, which clinched 81,588 votes (10.4 per cent).

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All three call for the public to be allowed to nominate candidates for the 2017 chief executive election, an idea repeatedly dismissed by Beijing as inconsistent with the Basic Law.

However, the Alliance’s “three track” proposal would allow the public, the nominating committee, as well as political parties, to put forward candidates.

Under their plan, candidates can be nominated by 35,000 registered voters or by a party which secured at least five per cent of the vote in the last Legco election. It did not specify on the formation of the nominating committee, only stating that it should be “as democratic as it can be”.

The two other proposals would only allow the public and a nominating committee to put forward candidates.

In addition to the question of electoral reform, about 88 per cent of voters agreed that the Legislative Council should veto any reform proposal put forward by the government if it failed to meet international standards, compared with 7.5 per cent who disagreed.

Benny Tai Yiu-ting, a co-organiser of Occupy Central, said: "Today should go down in the history of Hong Kong's constitutional development as the referendum was the largest scale of expression of public opinion in the city's history."

He said they would submit the results to Chief Secretary Carrie Lam Cheng Yuet-ngor.

A total of 798,957 people had voted since the exercise began on June 20. Discounting 11,190 repeat votes caused by people casting ballots both online and at polling stations, the number of valid votes cast was 787,767.

More than 6,000 votes cast at polling stations had still to be counted.

Watch: Hong Kong residents vote on the last day of unofficial referendum

Alliance convenor Professor Joseph Cheng Yu-shek said: "In the last 10 days, Hong Kong people have spoken clearly that they want universal suffrage. They agree that public nomination is the most effective mechanism [to fight] against screening."

Tai said the campaign would push for the winning proposal, and if the government refused to accept it and tabled a different proposal, the civil disobedience movement would hold another referendum to decide whether to mobilise supporters to block traffic in Central.

The students' proposal calls for the nominating committee for candidates to comprise only directly elected lawmakers; People Power wants it to include both elected lawmakers and district councillors; the alliance does not suggest in detail how it should be formed.

Commenting on the poll for the first time, Chief Secretary Carrie Lam Cheng Yuet-ngor said the government would take note of the opinions. But she stressed again that electoral reform must comply with the Basic Law, saying officials "could not deviate from the legal considerations".

A government spokesman said it was the common aspiration of the people and government of Hong Kong to implement universal suffrage for the 2017 election. But public nomination was unlikely to be adopted in view of controversies relating to the legal, political and operational aspects of the proposal.

Many voters yesterday said their decision was motivated by the approval of funding in the Legislative Council on Friday for developing two new towns in the northeastern New Territories. Engineer Alan Lam said this was "one of many issues which showed officials stand on the opposite side of public opinion".

"At least we have to let them know that we won't stay silent."

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A Hong Konger
It's a proud moment for HKers, it shows an iron-clad conviction that is being expressed with a growing confidence and resolve, but we have a long way to go yet. Yes, the turnout (even if it was mainly electronic) was impressive. Yes, the majority of HKers want civil nominations and full universal suffrage for the legislative and executive levels of gov. Yes, we are very concerned about our relative (and likely terminal) decline and livelihood issues. And you can be sure the turnout on July 1st will be huge. But Beijing will stare us down, knowing we have too much to loose to seriously challenge them. And the majority of HKers will feel they have to acquiesce.

But this additional indignity will have a radicalising effect. Causing the number of us that realise we have nothing to loose to grow. China's denial will make us more courageous, more radical and see the structure of HK-Sino relations as irreconcilable. More of us will see momentum, morality and reason are on our side. We can see the Pro-Beijing camp as intellectually bankrupt, few in numbers, incoherent and weak.

We are fast rising to the tipping point and once we pass it we will show Beijing we are united and strong. Self-determination is in our future and nothing will stop us from achieving it. Beijing knows this and, like everything they do, are merely biding for time.

With luck this seminal show of our resolve will be where it will begin.
hkhk
Well done Hong Kong!
Dao-Phooy
Congratulations! Thank you for giving people a chance to vote.
impala
Firstly, your figures are way, way off. We're looking at a 800,000+ turnout. That is over 22% of voters, and over 11% of the population. So you are downplaying the poll by at least half.

Secondly, for an unofficial, all-volunteer, low-budget poll, that is enormous, and not the kind of number any government anywhere should or can afford to ignore.

For the 2012 Legco Election, the pro-Beijing camp (ie, the DAB and their legislative allies) received less votes than that (772k), while the pro-dem parties received over 1m votes. Of course, because of the rigged system, the DAB & Co still get a majority of the LegCo seats.

But the fact remains that that the pro-Beijing LegCo majority (and by proxy the Executive branch that comes out of the same camp) was elected by less voters than have voted in this OC poll.

Would you also like to dispute the legitimacy of that LegCo majority and the entire government because they only got 772k votes?
blue
You pathetic 50 cent barking dogs. 800k out of 3.5 million registered voters is a huge turn out.

Just remember that if an unacceptable political reform package is introduced that doesn't meet ICCPR, it will get vetoed by the Alliance for True Democracy. People have always spoken that they'd rather have the status quo instead of fake universal suffrage.

Of course HK will continue to destabilize if we're left with the status quo, but that'll solely be Beijing's fault for not keeping their promise and offering a political reform package that complies with Articles 26, 39, AND 45 of the Basic Law. I can understand if Beijing doesn't offer public nomination, but the package must comply with the ICCPR since it is part of Article 39 of the Basic Law.
ecpath
For God's Sake ! What is the big deal when only 5-6% of the population (approx 11-12% of the electorate) participated in the so call voting and agreed with the unofficial group ?
In fact, if I were to be members of the Occupy Central group, I would have issued an apology to the HK population for the disturbance and resign from Legco.
What nonsense this group of beings are promoting, and where are they when the Governors of HK (including Patten) were appointed (supposedly by the Queen) without any accountability to the population of HK ?
If these beings are so uncomfortable with the electoral system, they are free to emigrate. But then, given their intellectual quality and capabilities, will they be "valued" by any other countries ?

5359337f-85d8-4858-a065-34fa0a320969
MI6 and CIA have won the battle in splitting up HK and creating havoc to China (like they did to Ukraine, Iraq, Russia, Taiwan)
5359337f-85d8-4858-a065-34fa0a320969
For those who are in support of Occupy Central and its recent poll, you mind as well go fight the war in Iraq, as you peanut brains are being used by MI6s and CIAs with the sole agenda to create havoc in HK/China, so that USA and its ally can continue to remain as global powers.
blue
You're the one with the peanut brain for making such an irrational and illogical statement. So if we don't serve our masters over at the CCP then we're being manipulated by the CIA and MI6? What a ridiculous and condescending statement!

Your own statement proves what a mouth frothing barking dog you are.
blue
"There is none. If you talk about section 39, that's UN human rights and not voting process. "

Wrong. Section 39 is about the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights being enforceable in Hong Kong, which includes a section on voting process as well.

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