Opposing sides beginning to talk about way out, but they're still far apart
Pan-democrats Martin Lee and Jimmy Lai put proposals to Legco president in bid to end stalemate, but they can't agree a way forward

Initial dialogue between heavyweights from the government-friendly and pan-democratic camp has failed to break the deadlock as government and protesters remain poles apart.
Protest leaders also snubbed executive councillor Regina Ip Lau Suk-yee's proposal for a televised discussion.
Legislative Council president Jasper Tsang Yok-sing confirmed yesterday he had met Martin Lee Chu-ming, founding chairman of the Democratic Party, and Next Media chief Jimmy Lai Chee-ying on Wednesday to try to find a way to end the stalemate.
Tsang said Lee and Lai phoned him on Wednesday morning to seek a meeting.
"They told me they were worried about the current situation," the Legco chief said.
But no conclusion was reached after the one-hour meeting, which took place at Lee's office in Admiralty on Wednesday afternoon.