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Obama says Europe should see the tragedy of MH17 as 'wake-up call'

At least one Hong Kong resident among the 298 killed in suspected attack on civilian airliner

PUBLISHED : Thursday, 17 July, 2014, 11:23pm
UPDATED : Tuesday, 22 July, 2014, 10:34am

President Barack Obama said on Friday the downing of Malaysia Air MH17 in a Ukrainian region controlled by Russian-backed separatists should be a "wake-up call" for the West in its drive to hold Moscow accountable for a crisis that appears to be at a turning point.

"This certainly will be a wake-up call for Europe and the world that there are consequences to an escalating conflict in eastern Ukraine; that it is not going to be localised, it is not going to be contained," Obama told reporters.

While stopping short of blaming Russia for Thursday’s crash of flight MH17, in which 298 people died, Obama accused Russia of failing to stop the violence that made it possible to shoot down the plane. 

"The violence that’s taking place there is facilitated in large part because of Russian support," Obama said. "If Mr Putin makes a decision that we are not going to allow heavy armaments and the flow of fighters into Ukraine across the Ukrainian-Russian border, then it will stop.

"He has the most control over that situation... and so far, at least, he has not exercised it."

Watch: Obama: Putin must push separatists to aid MH17 probe

Russian president Vladimir Putin, who has denied Russian involvement in the fighting in Ukraine, said the government in Kiev bore responsibility because the crash wouldn’t have occurred without the current strife with separatists battling regular forces in two eastern regions of the country.

Speaking at an appearance with church leaders near Moscow, Putin called for an end to fighting. “Direct contacts between all conflicting sides should be immediately established, all sides in the conflict must immediately stop military actions and start peace negotiations,” he said.

"It is with great concern and sadness that we are watching what is happening in eastern Ukraine. It’s awful, it’s a tragedy."

The comments came as the Ukrainian government and pro-Russian rebels agreed to set up a security zone around the crash site, Ukraine’s security service chief said on Saturday.

Internationally mediated talks “concluded with an agreement to set up a 20-kilometre security zone so that Ukraine could fulfil the most important thing – identify the bodies [and] hand them over to relatives,”Ukrainian Security Service head Valentyn Nalyvaychenko said in televised remarks.

The UN Security Council unanimously demanded a “full, thorough and independent investigation” at the start of a meeting on the Ukraine crisis that saw fraught exchanges between Western countries and Russia.

“This war can be ended,” US Ambassador to the UN Samantha Power told the council. “Russia can end this war and Russia must end this war.”

As moves to investigate the crash got under way, Ukraine’s state security service said it intercepted phone conversations among pro-Russian militants discussing a missile strike that knocked Flight MH17 from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur out of the sky 50 kilometres from the Russian border yesterday.

Ukrainian emergency services have found the plane’s black boxes at the crash site, Kostyantyn Batozsky, an adviser to the head of the Donetsk regional administration appointed by President Petro Poroshenko, told reporters, though he was unable to give details of their current location. The government and rebels are discussing the creation of a safe corridor to the crash site and a demilitarised zone around it, he said.

The aircraft, en route to Kuala Lumpur from Amsterdam, crashed over Ukraine on Thursday after a presumed ground-to-air missile attack.

Ukraine Foreign Ministry representative Andriy Sybiga said 181 bodies had been found from the airliner, citing local emergency workers. He said the bodies will be taken to Kharkiv, a government-controlled city 270 kilometers (170 miles) to the north, for identification.

The identities of twenty passengers on the ill-fated Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 have yet to be verified, Malaysia's transport Minister Liow Tiong Lai said at a press briefing in Kuala Lumpur, adding that the airline is still trying to contact the relatives of those passengers.

At least one Hong Kong resident and a relative with foreign nationality were on board MH17, the Hong Kong Immigration Department said on Friday. The Hongkonger on board MH17 is understood to be a 50-year-old man. The relative with him was his wife, also aged around 50, who held a Malaysian passport.

Malaysia Airlines confirmed on Friday afternoon that 173 Dutch, 44 Malaysians, 27 Australians, 12 Indonesians, nine Britons, four Germans, four Belgians, three Filipinos, one Canadian and one New Zealander were on board the jet.

READ MORE: Hong Kong resident was on board flight MH17

"Chinese nationals are not on the list that they have," a spokesperson told the South China Morning Post.

The spokesperson said the airline wanted to avoid earlier mistakes in revealing unverified identities too soon. Of the 183 passengers, 41 transited in Amsterdam without passing passport controls there. 

Spokesman Qin Gang said on Friday afternoon China conveyed profound condolences to the victims and will closely follow the development of the incident.

"We are deeply shocked by the crash of MH17... We hope to find out the cause [of the incident]," said Qin.

"All of China's relevant embassies and consulates have activated the emergency system to confirm if there were Chinese citizens on board. We will closely follow the development of the incident, keep in close contact with all parties involved, and take actions in accordance [with the development of the incident]."

Ukraine has called for an international probe to determine who attacked the plane and the Unites States has offered to help. But access to the site remained difficult and dangerous. The road from Donetsk, the largest city in the region, to the crash site was marked by five rebel checkpoints Friday, with document checks at each.

The Organisation for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE), a multinational grouping that has played an observer role in Ukraine's conflict, sent staff via helicopter to the rebel-controlled area where the plane's wreckage lies shattered, a spokesperson for the organisation told the South China Morning Post.  

Prior to their departure, the OSCE held talks with the militants who have agreed to their presence.

"Today 17 new workers and four official experts from Kiev arrived in Donetsk," said rebel leader Sergei Kavtaradze. "Soon they are due to arrive at the site of the tragedy. We support the maximum number of experts possible."

The OSCE later said about 30 of its staff had arrived at the scene.

Watch: Downed Malaysia Airlines jet MH17 - what we know so far 

The Ukrainian government and pro-Russian separatists are meanwhile continuing to trade accusations over who shot down the Malaysian airliner. Both have denied taking the plane down.

Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk described the downing as an “international crime” whose perpetrators would have to be punished in an international tribunal.

“Yesterday’s terrible tragedy will change our lives. The Russians have done it now,” he was cited as saying by the Interfax-Ukraine news agency.

Suspicion has fallen on pro-Moscow rebels in the divided eastern Ukraine, branded “terrorists” by the government in Kiev, who are in control of large areas of the region.

INFOGRAPHIC: Shot down over Ukraine

Oleg Tsarev, one of the heads of the breakaway Donetsk People’s Republic, told TIME the rebels did not shoot the plane down. “We don’t have weapons that can take down a plane from that altitude,” he said. Separatists were also quoted in Russian state media saying they did not shoot down the plane. 

According to intercepted audio recordings from conversations between rebels shared by the New York Times, the jet just “fell apart in the air”.

In one phone call, pro-Russia separatist rebel commander Igor Bezler allegedly informed a Russian military intelligence official they had “just shot down a plane,” according to the recordings.

Bezler allegedly ordered his men to intercept the pilots of the stricken “smoking” jet.

One of the men concluded the plane was a civilian aircraft after stumbling across the remnants of internal brackets, seats and other “civilian items”, according to the recordings. The militants described seeing “lots of corpses of women and children”.

In the confusion one of the men said he had learnt from a television report that the downed jet was an AN-26 Ukrainian transport plane, but went on to say “but it has Malaysia Airlines logo on it.” He went on to question why it was flying in Ukrainian airspace.

The caller on the other end of the line concluded the plane was carrying spies. "They shouldn’t be [expletive] flying. There is a war going on,” he said. 

The Malaysian Airlines jet is the third plane downed in the airspace in recent days following strikes on two Ukrainian Armed Forces aircraft, the office of the Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said on its website

The Ukrainian president believed a "terrorist act" was the cause of the crash, his press secretary Svatoslav Tsegolko said. "Poroshenko thinks this of the plane that was brought down: it is not an incident, not a catastrophe, but a terrorist act." 

READ MORE: What is known about the Malaysian Airlines plane crash

Few weapons are capable of shooting down an aircraft at cruising altitude, but the strike is well within the range of Russian-made Buk surface-to-air missiles that are in the arsenals of both Ukrainian and Russian forces.

Buk missiles are mobile systems installed on wheeled or tracked vehicles that are designed to strike aircraft, cruise missiles, helicopters and other airborne targets.

The Russian state-run news agency Interfax speculated that the Malaysian airliner could have been mistaken for the personal plane of Russia's President Vladimir Putin, who was returning to Moscow from a BRICS summit meeting in Brazil on Thursday.

Watch: Aftermath of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 disaster 

In a press conference early on Friday, Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak demanded swift justice for those responsible if the airliner was found to have been shot down.

“The Ukrainian authorities believe that the plane was shot down,” Najib said in the statement. “At this stage, however, Malaysia is unable to verify the cause of this tragedy. But we must, and we will, find out precisely what happened to this flight. No stone will be left unturned.”

“If it transpires that the plane was indeed shot down, we insist that the perpetrators must swiftly be brought to justice.”

Najib also said that Malaysia was sending a special flight to Kiev with a disaster assistance and rescue team.

“An international team must have full access to the crash site and no one should interfere with the area, or move any debris, including the black box,” he said.

Malaysia Airlines said air traffic controllers lost contact with Flight MH17 at 14.15pm GMT at 30 kilometres from Tamak waypoint, approximately 50 kilometres from the Russia-Ukraine border. Flight tracking data indicated it was at its cruising altitude of 33,000 feet (10,000 metres) when it disappeared.

Flight MH17 departed Amsterdam at 12.15pm local time and was estimated to arrive at Kuala Lumpur International Airport at 6.10am Malaysia local time the next day.

The downed Boeing 777-200ER jet, registered 9M-MRD, had a clean safety record, Malaysia Airlines said. It operated for exactly 17 years.

An Interfax report said the plane came down 50 kilometres short of entering Russian airspace. It “began to drop, afterwards it was found burning on the ground on Ukrainian territory,” the unnamed source said. Eurocontrol said on Thursday that eastern Ukraine has been closed to air traffic.

The loss of MH17 is the second disaster to hit Malaysia Airlines this year, following the mysterious loss of Flight MH370. It disappeared in March with 239 passengers and crew on board on its way from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

“This is a tragic day, in what has already been a tragic year, for Malaysia,” Najib said.

Australia's Prime Minister Tony Abbott he was "filled with revulsion" by this tragedy and put the blame on pro-Russian militants. More than 100 passengers on the plane were activists flying to Australia to attend the bi-annual World Aids Conference in Melbourne next week. 

READ MORE: Australian PM points finger at Russia over downed Malaysian plane

EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton called for an international investigation into the disaster.

“The circumstances must be clarified without delay and an international investigation needs to shine a light on this tragedy,” she added. “We call on all parties in the region to allow full access to the [crash] site.”

British Prime Minister David Cameron tweeted: “I’m shocked and saddened by the Malaysian air disaster.”

British media have reported that between five and 10 British citizens were on board MH17.

Holland’s Justice Minister Ivo Opstelten said “there were several Dutch onboard”, adding he was “deeply shocked” by the “horrible” images coming from the crash site. The flag at the Dutch embassy in Beijing stood at half-mast on Friday.


Distraught relatives of passengers were shielded from the media at Amsterdam’s Schiphol airport as news of the disaster spread.

A journalist saw several family members – many in tears – led into a restaurant on the upper deck of the airport, from where the ill-fated jet had departed hours earlier.

Shocked passengers due to catch a later flight to Kuala Lumpur, the destination of the downed plane, said they were determined to make their journeys.

“I’m going to board the plane. I’m sure the airlines are now taking precautions,” passenger Asri Strankina told reporters.

European air traffic control body Eurocontrol said that the route flown by MH17 "had been closed by the Ukrainian authorities from ground to flight level 320 [32,000ft] but was open at the level at which the aircraft was flying.”

Ukrainian aviation authorities have since closed airspace around Eastern Ukraine, Eurocontrol said. These routes are being rejected by Eurocontrol and will “remain closed until further notice.”

Unlike other Asian airlines, Malaysian Airlines did not reroute flights when Russian troops moved into Crimea earlier this year. From as early as the beginning of March, South Korea’s two main airlines, Korean Air and Asiana, as well as Australia’s Qantas and Taiwan’s China Airlines avoided Ukrainian air space.

Quizzed as to why Malaysia Airlines had not taken similar precautions, Malaysian Prime Minister Najib said international air authorities had deemed the flight path secure.

“The aircraft’s flight route was declared safe by the International Civil Aviation Organisation. And (the) International Air Transportation Association has stated that the airspace the aircraft was traversing was not subject to restrictions,” he said.

Re-routing would have involved a longer flight-time and therefore higher fuel costs.

Chris Beebe, the general secretary of the Hong Kong Aircrew Officers Association and a pilot for 33 years, said an aircraft's pilot, crew and the airline's operational team usually discuss and decide the best route for each flight. The airline took the ultimate decision to fly over eastern Ukraine, he said. "When a flight is dispatched a captain and crew will take into account the route of the flight and they’ll usually be briefed on potential conflicts along the way, he said."

Pilots will adjust their routing appropriately if they feel it’s an unsafe situation but that is usually done in conjunction with their dispatcher at the airline's operational control centre, said Beebe. "The routings of international flights are pretty detailed and it’s certainly all plotted out that it avoids potential conflicts," he said. 

Beebe said that the airplane's altitude depended on its load. "The airplane sounds like it was full. It therefore is not capable of going higher sometimes. A fully loaded plane with plenty of fuel potentially meant the Boeing 777 was unable to climb higher than 32,000-33,000 feet," he said. 

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I dont particularly like the US, but you do sound like an idiot
It says a lot about the quality of heart of your ilk that you would even take an opportunity such as the tragic death of 295 people to make an absolutely foolish potshot at your 'enemy'. I'm not lover of the CIA but really? Come on? How ridiculous! Do you think you are funny? You aren't!!
People have short memories, especially those in Western democracies.
In 1988, USS Vincennes shot down an Iranian commercial aircraft with a guided missile shortly after its take-off from Tehran, killing all 290 on board. What gave the US the right to shoot down another nation's commercial jet in its own airspace?
In 1973, two Israeli F4 jet fighters chased down a Libyan Airline jet killing everyone (120?) aboard while it got lost over Sinai Peninsula in a sandstorm.
I am sure there are many others. It's time for the media to make a clean breast of the legitimate "excuses" used by Western uniformed terrorists, who killed from a safe haven with superior weaponry and impunity. Show us who are the real cowards and terrorists!
Of course, when unarmed Chinese soldiers were murdered by rioters, it became a good thing. When Chinese soldiers finally turned the guns on these rioters to maintain order, then it turned into a media riot: Tiananmen Massacre! Do the media call US National Guards shoot to kill looters, or Black Water mercenaries killing Iraqi pedestrians, acts of massacre?
Keeping up this myth about China day in and day out long enough, Hong Kong self-hate morons with the help of Western media are hoping to write this lie into our history books.
Media manufactured opinion -- whatever sells best -- is then transformed into manufactured consent. This is the essence of people's mandate. In democracies, media determine what's news what's fit to be consumed.
Our deepest sympathy and prayers go to the families of the passengers and crew of flight MH17.
This is a tragedy that I think shouldn't have happened. What I don't understand is why Malaysia Airlines (and for that matter any other airlines) in view of the conflicts occurring in East Ukraine did not change their flight path. Military planes and helicopters have been shot down in the area; the most recent a Ukrainian cargo plane claimed to be brought down by Russia just a few days ago!
I hear now all the airlines have started changing their flight path to avoid the conflict areas. Why wasn't this done before this very sad tragedy occurred? I honestly believe this accident could have been avoided and the precious lives of the passengers and crew spared if the airlines have the common sense to foresee the risks involved in flying through a conflict zone.
These cowards - I can imagine their jubilation when they fired the missile but now they have murdered over 300 innocent people they skunk off and refuse to take responsibility for their heinous act.
You sound normal in the whole comment until the last sentence, which is reek of the stench of white supremacy. I think your mind is full of the stench that it finally break wind out. You must feel miserable if you are in HK, an Asian city. Run away and leave the place you so despire and stay away from the people you think inferior to you. You wont miss any occasion to advertise white supremacy.
@anson "Why were Malaysia Airlines still flying over war zones?"
The Civil Aviation Organization warned all commercial airlines back in April not to fly over this region. Ignoring this advisory notice demonstrates how many airlines' pursuit of profit counts higher than the safety of passengers and aircrew.
you are white racist idiot andres****. Luft & air france had flights across the airspace at that time, which were immediately diverted.
when any country starts wars a lot of innocent lives are lost - duhh!!
But who started the war in the Ukraine? Not the US - read your history!
It began with a rigged election in 2004 where a pro Russion usurped power and the people of the Ukraine took to the streets in protest. Finally when the pro-Russian Yanukovych was booted out of office by the people and his own government, Putin sent the Russian troops into Crimea. Where do you see the US having started this war?
A Kuro
If Obama didn't sponsor a coup in Ukraine and then encouraged Kiev to launch a civil war none of this would have happened. The US have blood in it's hands.



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