Mr Tung said people in Hong Kong enjoyed more human rights than those in New York and Britain, after being accused of not complying with two international conventions to which the SAR is a signatory. He also dismissed suggestions that the SAR's judicial independence had deteriorated and said it was internationally recognised that rule of law was 'healthy' in Hong Kong. Mr Tung was replying to a question from Ronny Tong Ka-wah, former chairman of the Bar Association, after the Chief Executive asked him if he had a question at the end of a consultation session with Election Committee members. Mr Tong asked why the Government had not enacted laws to localise the conventions, citing criticism from the United Nations' human rights committee. Mr Tung replied: 'You told me we are not as good as others [on human rights], but I tell you that I have lived in Britain for six years, New York for nine years and travelled around the world. Human rights in Hong Kong today are better than any of these places.' But he avoided directly saying whether there was a need to legislate. 'On whether we are honouring international conventions, according to Article 39 of the Basic Law, the two international conventions apply to Hong Kong and there are no problems.' Raising his voice, Mr Tung added: 'Someone said the Judiciary is bound to intervene because someone has special relations, or something like that. I want to stress that it is untrue, entirely untrue.' He said the Judiciary had been 'very independent and healthy' since the handover and was generally recognised as such by foreign dignitaries, businessmen and legislatures overseas. Speaking after the session, Mr Tong said he had been used by Mr Tung to provide an opportunity for him to recite a prepared answer on the rule of law. Mr Tong said Mr Tung had not really answered his question. 'But his answer does have some good effect because he said the mentioning of the conventions in the Basic Law was enough without being localised by domestic laws. This view can now be quoted in later court cases,' he said. Officials have in the past said that the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights and the Convention on the Rights of the Child lacked effect as they had not been localised. Speaking after the session, Mr Tung admitted he picked Mr Tong in order to explain his views on the rule of law.