Martin Lee Chu-ming SC, counsel for HKIEd president Paul Morris and academic vice-president Bernard Luk Hung-kay, reads a note taken by the institute's former council chairman, Simon Ip Sik-on, after a meeting with Secretary for Education and Manpower Arthur Li Kwok-cheung on July 19, 2002. Dr Ip has alleged Professor Li told him the institute was going to merge with Chinese University. Martin Lee [Former chief executive, Tung Chee-hwa] wants to show himself as a strong leader and come up with some decisive action. Li said he did not think the merger proposal was motivated by financial reasons ... Professor Li did not say that a merger would save money. He could not tell you why there should be a merger? Simon Ip Yes [he couldn't]. Martin Lee He said it was going to happen ... and it was best that the parties co-operated. He said that as far as he was aware his former colleagues at the Chinese University were also not keen on the idea.