HKIEd council chairman Thomas Leung Kwok-fai's comment, according to Philip Moore, after Professor Moore showed support at a meeting for Paul Morris' reappointment as president: 'You guys think everything's too rosy, that's your problem.' Professor Moore's opinion of Dr Leung: 'I somehow ... got the view that he was the messenger for something else, for the merger ... for Professor Arthur Li.' Professor Moore tells of his reaction when Professor Morris told him Professor Li threatened to cut the institute's student numbers if they did not agree to a merger with Chinese University: 'I am quite a passive individual. When I heard that, I was quite disturbed. I don't like violence of any type. I don't like people talking about violence of any type. I was offended by someone who was in a public position, speaking like that.' Professor Moore's account of an 'acrimonious meeting' with former permanent secretary for education and manpower Fanny Law Fan Chiu-fun in 2005 on funding for the institute's projects: 'She stood up, ran across the room ... I said 'Fanny', and she slammed the door. I was embarrassed for her staff. More importantly, I was embarrassed for her because what it did was to show me what incredible stress she was under to do that.'