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Firefighters were frequently called to the scene of protests to put out blazes. Photo: Edmond So

Hong Kong’s new fire chief stands by controversial comment on violent protesters, saying lawbreakers deserve to be condemned

  • Joseph Leung will take the helm of the city’s 151-year-old fire service on Saturday as current director Daryl Li retires
  • He says the comparison he made was a trivial matter compared with the damage caused by ‘rioters who breached the law’ with their acts

Hong Kong’s newly installed fire chief is standing by his controversial remarks condemning violent anti-government protesters, saying that such people had caused greater damage than the comparison he drew.

Joseph Leung Wai-hung, who is set to take the helm of the city’s 151-year-old fire service on Saturday, revealed during a meeting with the press on Wednesday that he had been told by the Civil Service Bureau that he should learn a lesson over his remarks.

As deputy director, he called protesters cockroaches during an internal meeting last year.

“But following this emotional remark, will it affect my work? Absolutely not,” said the 55-year-old, who will replace Director of Fire Services Daryl Li Kin-yat. Li has taken early retirement.

Daryl Li (left) with his successor Joseph Leung. Photo: SCMP
Li, also 55, reflected on the unprecedented challenges the Fire Services Department had faced over the past 10 months, after the city was first hit by civil unrest followed by the Covid-19 pandemic.

He said the two events had spread manpower thin, while the top brass had to tackle the unfamiliar task of debunking protest-related rumours that had spread like wildfire.

Hong Kong had been embroiled in protests, which were sparked by a now-withdrawn extradition bill last June. The campaign snowballed into a wider anti-government movement and demonstrations often descended into violent clashes between radical protesters and police.

Firefighters were often called to the scene to put out blazes set by radicals, who also hurled petrol bombs in some of the city’s busiest districts.

Leung, who joined the service as a station officer in 1983, found himself at the centre of a political storm after his comments, but has defended his choice of words and said he was referring to “rioters who broke the law” and never intended to make the remark public.

He said the comparison he drew was a trivial matter when some were flouting the law with acts that deserved true condemnation.

“It was on a different level compared with those rioters who had breached the law,” Leung said.

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Asked if his remark would affect the fire service’s neutral image, he pledged: “No matter what colour or political stance one belongs to, the management has to make sure that we have filled our statutory duties.”

During the protests, his officers were accused of standing idly by on one occasion when a man was attacked by others, he said. While he acknowledged that his colleagues were not trained or equipped to handle such confrontations, he said the incident had prompted him to write to frontline officers with new guidelines, urging them to step in, yelling at the perpetrators if possible, even if “rioters” were under attack.

He rejected the suggestion that he was subject to looser standards when more than 130 firefighters faced internal probes for posting inappropriate remarks, including expletives and insults directed at police online. He said his remark had been reviewed by the Civil Service Bureau.

Of the 130 complaints, he said, more than half were found unsubstantiated, while some were still under investigation.

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Disciplinary counselling was the most severe punishment handed out, he said, while 11 fire officers had been arrested during the extradition bill saga last year, two of whom had already been cleared and given the green light to return to duty.

Li said the protests posed an immense challenge because they added to the service’s regular workload.

Radicals set fires on roads and threw petrol bombs as protests grew more violent. Photo: Sam Tsang

He said his colleagues had faced unfair allegations that they had failed to put out fires set by protesters, while the fact was it took time to get to the scene because of roadblocks.

“On one hand, we need to deal with all these social events, while on the other hand, emergencies of other sorts will not come to a halt because of them, which puts a huge strain on our manpower,” he said.

Li said his colleagues had also been putting in extra effort because of the pandemic.

He said recent measures put in place to combat Covid-19 made journeys longer for ambulances because they had to ferry suspected patients to AsiaWorld-Expo in Tung Chung, where many coronavirus tests were conducted. Ambulances had to be sanitised before being used again, he added.

He said more than 1,300 of his staff had been placed under medical surveillance. Eight were sent to quarantine centres, including six who came into contact with an elderly confirmed patient who failed to fully disclose his travel history.

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