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US-China Trade War Update

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Get the latest in the ongoing US-China trade war from the South China Morning Post’s editorial team talking about the latest information they’re hearing from their contacts on both sides. Each week political economy journalist Finbarr Bermingham wraps the latest developments in the global supply chain, diplomacy and economy from reporters and editors at the South China Morning Post in Hong Kong.

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7 Aug 2020

US President Donald Trump signs executive orders targeting two of China's biggest mobile apps in a new escalation of the US-China tech war. Finbarr Bermingham, Zhou Xin and John Carter from the SCMP political economy team unpack how this will impact business and culture on both sides of the world, and Washington bureau chief Rob Delaney analyses the bipartisan mood in the US in support of Trump's moves.

US President Donald Trump signs executive orders targeting two of China's biggest mobile apps in a new escalation of the US-China tech war. Finbarr Bermingham, Zhou Xin and John Carter from the SCMP political economy team unpack how this will impact business and culture on both sides of the world, and Washington bureau chief Rob Delaney analyses the bipartisan mood in the US in support of Trump's moves.

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31 Jul 2020

The SCMP political economy team, Finbarr Bermingham, John Carter and Zhou Xin analyse a historic week where the United States recorded a massive economic slump while China continued to eke out growth in its post-lockdown economy. Hear analysis of Xi Jinping's recent addresses and this week's meeting of the Politburo, and clues of increasing preparation for decoupling. We will also hear from Kenya's nomination for the WTO vacancy Amina Mohamed, about her views on how the WTO can help resolve the US-China trade war.

The SCMP political economy team, Finbarr Bermingham, John Carter and Zhou Xin analyse a historic week where the United States recorded a massive economic slump while China continued to eke out growth in its post-lockdown economy. Hear analysis of Xi Jinping's recent addresses and this week's meeting of the Politburo, and clues of increasing preparation for decoupling. We will also hear from Kenya's nomination for the WTO vacancy Amina Mohamed, about her views on how the WTO can help resolve the US-China trade war.

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24 Jul 2020

Political economy editors John Carter and Zhou Xin explain the impact of the closure of the Chengdu consulate on US companies, and the deep historical meaning China attaches to the Houston consulate. Hong Kong desk editor Denise Tsang reveals the ongoing fears of American and Japanese companies about being based in Hong Kong and the bad economic news ahead. Veteran trade lawyer Will Marshall unpacks how his clients and Hong Kong's business community are discovering the Hong Kong Autonomy Act is affecting trade in and out of the HK SAR.

Political economy editors John Carter and Zhou Xin explain the impact of the closure of the Chengdu consulate on US companies, and the deep historical meaning China attaches to the Houston consulate. Hong Kong desk editor Denise Tsang reveals the ongoing fears of American and Japanese companies about being based in Hong Kong and the bad economic news ahead. Veteran trade lawyer Will Marshall unpacks how his clients and Hong Kong's business community are discovering the Hong Kong Autonomy Act is affecting trade in and out of the HK SAR.

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16 Jul 2020

The SCMP political economy team analyse the reality of Trump's Hong Kong Autonomy Act, and what Hong Kong means to China both economically and historically; Europe correspondent Stuart Lau unpacks the coming deadline for the EU's investment treaty with China, in a week where Britain became the newest front in the burgeoning tech war.

The SCMP political economy team analyse the reality of Trump's Hong Kong Autonomy Act, and what Hong Kong means to China both economically and historically; Europe correspondent Stuart Lau unpacks the coming deadline for the EU's investment treaty with China, in a week where Britain became the newest front in the burgeoning tech war.

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10 Jul 2020

Political economy editors Zhou Xin and John Carter join Finbarr Bermingham to analyse how Donald Trump's Hong Kong Autonomy Act will impact business here, and reflect on the past turbulent two years of trade war. Hear an in-depth interview with Clark Jennings, former White House advisor on a potential Biden presidency and what aspects of Trump’s policies toward China would be kept and which would be changed.

Political economy editors Zhou Xin and John Carter join Finbarr Bermingham to analyse how Donald Trump's Hong Kong Autonomy Act will impact business here, and reflect on the past turbulent two years of trade war. Hear an in-depth interview with Clark Jennings, former White House advisor on a potential Biden presidency and what aspects of Trump’s policies toward China would be kept and which would be changed.

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25 Jun 2020

SCMP political economy editor Zhou Xin has a copy of John Bolton's book 'The Room Where It Happened' and discusses what its revelations mean for Chinese readers; Washington bureau chief Rob Delaney unpicks the rollercoaster week of statements from Navarro, Ross and Trump, the talk of decoupling the US and China as well as analysing of how Trump will use the trade deal to leverage his popularity with his rural base for the upcoming election. Presented by Finbarr Bermingham.

SCMP political economy editor Zhou Xin has a copy of John Bolton's book 'The Room Where It Happened' and discusses what its revelations mean for Chinese readers; Washington bureau chief Rob Delaney unpicks the rollercoaster week of statements from Navarro, Ross and Trump, the talk of decoupling the US and China as well as analysing of how Trump will use the trade deal to leverage his popularity with his rural base for the upcoming election. Presented by Finbarr Bermingham.

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19 Jun 2020

Jesus Seade, the Mexican candidate to lead the World Trade Organisation, has pitched himself as the “trade expert” who can bring both the US and China back to the negotiating table. This is a deep-dive interview with Finbarr Bermingham, probing his thoughts on the US-China trade war, the phase one trade deal and what Seade learned from leading the talks that saw the North American Free Trade Agreement revamped as the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA), due to take force on July 1.

Jesus Seade, the Mexican candidate to lead the World Trade Organisation, has pitched himself as the “trade expert” who can bring both the US and China back to the negotiating table. This is a deep-dive interview with Finbarr Bermingham, probing his thoughts on the US-China trade war, the phase one trade deal and what Seade learned from leading the talks that saw the North American Free Trade Agreement revamped as the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA), due to take force on July 1.

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12 Jun 2020

Who will buy? It's a week where soybeans, fossil fuels, wolf warrior diplomacy and the 2020 US Presidential campaign collided... SCMP editors John Carter and Teddy Ng discuss the latest events in the rising US-China rivalry, while Peterson Institute for International Economics' trade expert Chad Bown joins Finbarr Bermingham on the line to discuss China's progress towards meeting trade deal purchasing targets. 

Who will buy? It's a week where soybeans, fossil fuels, wolf warrior diplomacy and the 2020 US Presidential campaign collided... SCMP editors John Carter and Teddy Ng discuss the latest events in the rising US-China rivalry, while Peterson Institute for International Economics' trade expert Chad Bown joins Finbarr Bermingham on the line to discuss China's progress towards meeting trade deal purchasing targets. 

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29 May 2020

How will Beijing's controversial national security law for Hong Kong affect US-China trade relations, now that US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has declared Hong Kong 'no longer autonomous'? Finbarr Bermingham brings political economy editors Zhou Xin and John Carter together to discuss the possible outcomes, while Su-Lin Tan looks at China's decision to massively increase tariffs on Australian barley and the potential for switching to American suppliers - is this a new front in China's trade war?

How will Beijing's controversial national security law for Hong Kong affect US-China trade relations, now that US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has declared Hong Kong 'no longer autonomous'? Finbarr Bermingham brings political economy editors Zhou Xin and John Carter together to discuss the possible outcomes, while Su-Lin Tan looks at China's decision to massively increase tariffs on Australian barley and the potential for switching to American suppliers - is this a new front in China's trade war?

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22 May 2020

Finbarr Bermingham joins political economy editors Zhou Xin and John Carter to scrutinise the announcements from China's 'two sessions', and discuss whether Donald Trump could change Hong Kong's special status in response to China's new Hong Kong national security law. Our feature interview is with James McGregor, Greater China chairman of APCO Worldwide’s, who gives a searing analysis of the current state of superpower rivalry and reflects on how China's more aggressive diplomatic stance is affecting its reputation globally. 

Finbarr Bermingham joins political economy editors Zhou Xin and John Carter to scrutinise the announcements from China's 'two sessions', and discuss whether Donald Trump could change Hong Kong's special status in response to China's new Hong Kong national security law. Our feature interview is with James McGregor, Greater China chairman of APCO Worldwide’s, who gives a searing analysis of the current state of superpower rivalry and reflects on how China's more aggressive diplomatic stance is affecting its reputation globally. 

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15 May 2020

Finbarr Bermingham, Zhou Xin, and John Carter take apart the threats, barbs and hostility between the White House and Beijing this week, to look at the new reality of the phase one deal, just four months after it was signed. Also, a special feature interview with Kelly Ann Shaw, until recently a top negotiator in the Trump trade team, and one of the architects of the phase one deal. Shaw talks the prospects of implementing phase one as the coronavirus blame game rages in the foreground.

Finbarr Bermingham, Zhou Xin, and John Carter take apart the threats, barbs and hostility between the White House and Beijing this week, to look at the new reality of the phase one deal, just four months after it was signed. Also, a special feature interview with Kelly Ann Shaw, until recently a top negotiator in the Trump trade team, and one of the architects of the phase one deal. Shaw talks the prospects of implementing phase one as the coronavirus blame game rages in the foreground.

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8 May 2020

China's latest trade data is surprisingly positive, thanks to PPE exports - but is it a 'false dawn'? Finbarr Bermingham gets political economy editors John Carter and Zhou Xin to parse the numbers and discuss what's to come or China. Hear in-depth discussion about why China cancelling US Treasury bonds is 'the nuclear option' tantamount to a declaration of war, and Cissy Zhou analyses the growing sentiment in political and business circles of a 'new cold war' between China and the US, and the reality of economic decoupling already underway.

China's latest trade data is surprisingly positive, thanks to PPE exports - but is it a 'false dawn'? Finbarr Bermingham gets political economy editors John Carter and Zhou Xin to parse the numbers and discuss what's to come or China. Hear in-depth discussion about why China cancelling US Treasury bonds is 'the nuclear option' tantamount to a declaration of war, and Cissy Zhou analyses the growing sentiment in political and business circles of a 'new cold war' between China and the US, and the reality of economic decoupling already underway.

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24 Apr 2020

Finbarr Bermingham and the political economy team take you inside the 'hidden' crisis happening in China - its burgeoning unemployment. Sidney Leng and John Carter reveal the difficulties in finding out just how many have lost their jobs during this pandemic, what the short to medium term prospects are for the millions of jobless and Beijing's policy response. Wendy Wu discusses the ongoing 'Wild West' market for ventilators, masks and PPE being made in China and how the new export ban is affecting Chinese companies - many of whom have only ever served the export market. 

 

Finbarr Bermingham and the political economy team take you inside the 'hidden' crisis happening in China - its burgeoning unemployment. Sidney Leng and John Carter reveal the difficulties in finding out just how many have lost their jobs during this pandemic, what the short to medium term prospects are for the millions of jobless and Beijing's policy response. Wendy Wu discusses the ongoing 'Wild West' market for ventilators, masks and PPE being made in China and how the new export ban is affecting Chinese companies - many of whom have only ever served the export market. 

 

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17 Apr 2020

Finbarr Bermingham speaks with political economy editors John Carter and Zhou Xin about the worst economic data for China since 1976, what it means for the broader economy and why the concept of 'revenge spending' promoted on Chinese social media is at best a mirage. Economist Carlos Casanova looks into the details underlying China's GDP figures and parses the details on potential good news as well as the more worrying trends of business bankruptcies in mainland China and what that portends for the economy.

Finbarr Bermingham speaks with political economy editors John Carter and Zhou Xin about the worst economic data for China since 1976, what it means for the broader economy and why the concept of 'revenge spending' promoted on Chinese social media is at best a mirage. Economist Carlos Casanova looks into the details underlying China's GDP figures and parses the details on potential good news as well as the more worrying trends of business bankruptcies in mainland China and what that portends for the economy.

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10 Apr 2020

Wuhan re-opens the same day the crucial Canton Trade Fair is cancelled. China is facing a critical moment, with the central government pivoting away from exports as a source of economic growth. Finbarr Bermingham and the team analyse the ongoing challenges China faces. Our feature interview is with Professor Heiwai Tang, from the University of Hong Kong, who lays out how the pandemic looks set to wipe out small business in favour of corporations.

Wuhan re-opens the same day the crucial Canton Trade Fair is cancelled. China is facing a critical moment, with the central government pivoting away from exports as a source of economic growth. Finbarr Bermingham and the team analyse the ongoing challenges China faces. Our feature interview is with Professor Heiwai Tang, from the University of Hong Kong, who lays out how the pandemic looks set to wipe out small business in favour of corporations.

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3 Apr 2020

What are the politics behind Xi Jinping's Zhejiang visit? What does Donald Trump need in November for his election victory? Hear about the crucial economic movements influencing the US and China's response to the pandemic. Political economy editors Zhou Xin and John Carter look at the data and the detail of China's economy. Our guest is Frank Lavin, a veteran diplomat and former White House official, talking about China's global leadership role and how the US economy is changing with the coronavirus pandemic.

What are the politics behind Xi Jinping's Zhejiang visit? What does Donald Trump need in November for his election victory? Hear about the crucial economic movements influencing the US and China's response to the pandemic. Political economy editors Zhou Xin and John Carter look at the data and the detail of China's economy. Our guest is Frank Lavin, a veteran diplomat and former White House official, talking about China's global leadership role and how the US economy is changing with the coronavirus pandemic.

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27 Mar 2020

In a week when the economic impact of coronavirus on the global economy was made clear, political economy editors John Carter and Zhou Xin join Finbarr Bermingham to discuss China's "wolf warrior" diplomats, the second wave demand shock to hit China's economy and why, when the rest of the world is firing financial bazookas, China is keeping its powder dry.Trade expert and SCMP columnist David Dodwell then gets his crystal ball out to try and envisage the post-coronavirus global supply chain. What will the world of trade look like after Covid-19?

In a week when the economic impact of coronavirus on the global economy was made clear, political economy editors John Carter and Zhou Xin join Finbarr Bermingham to discuss China's "wolf warrior" diplomats, the second wave demand shock to hit China's economy and why, when the rest of the world is firing financial bazookas, China is keeping its powder dry.Trade expert and SCMP columnist David Dodwell then gets his crystal ball out to try and envisage the post-coronavirus global supply chain. What will the world of trade look like after Covid-19?

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20 Mar 2020

As the crisis escalates through the global economy, a new issue threatens to make things worse: the US and China trading insults over whose fault it is. Political economy editor John Carter analyses the latest industry and economic news, its comparison to the Global Financial Crisis and why the world desperately needs the US and China to work together. Natixis chief economist for the Asia Pacific region, Alicia Garrero-Herrero unpacks the deals and data of this topsy-turvy week and delivers a withering analysis of how geo-political point scoring is a global threat second only to to coronavirus itself.

As the crisis escalates through the global economy, a new issue threatens to make things worse: the US and China trading insults over whose fault it is. Political economy editor John Carter analyses the latest industry and economic news, its comparison to the Global Financial Crisis and why the world desperately needs the US and China to work together. Natixis chief economist for the Asia Pacific region, Alicia Garrero-Herrero unpacks the deals and data of this topsy-turvy week and delivers a withering analysis of how geo-political point scoring is a global threat second only to to coronavirus itself.

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13 Mar 2020

Finbarr Bermingham speaks with Zhou Xin and John Carter about the impact of coronavirus on US demand for Chinese goods and how that will affect China's economy. They also discuss the virus' blame game, as figures in both the US and China try to scapegoat the other for the pandemic, and the psychological importance of the returning Canton Fair. Su-Lin Tan joins Finbarr to discuss what China's massive increase in mask production means for global supply chains and whether it could be indicative of a new geopolitical flashpoint.

Finbarr Bermingham speaks with Zhou Xin and John Carter about the impact of coronavirus on US demand for Chinese goods and how that will affect China's economy. They also discuss the virus' blame game, as figures in both the US and China try to scapegoat the other for the pandemic, and the psychological importance of the returning Canton Fair. Su-Lin Tan joins Finbarr to discuss what China's massive increase in mask production means for global supply chains and whether it could be indicative of a new geopolitical flashpoint.

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6 Mar 2020

The coronavirus continues to wreak havoc on China's economy. Political economy editors John Carter and Zhou Xin analyse the numbers and the damage done to the Chinese economy. Simone McCarthy on how the drug supply chain is being hit by the virus, as well as the suggestion that China could weaponise medicine supplies as part of its trade negotiations with the US. Former US Consul General of Shanghai, Kenneth Jarrett, joins on the line to discuss whether the coronavirus will hit China's chances of keeping up the trade deal, and whether it will drive more American supply chains out of the mainland.

The coronavirus continues to wreak havoc on China's economy. Political economy editors John Carter and Zhou Xin analyse the numbers and the damage done to the Chinese economy. Simone McCarthy on how the drug supply chain is being hit by the virus, as well as the suggestion that China could weaponise medicine supplies as part of its trade negotiations with the US. Former US Consul General of Shanghai, Kenneth Jarrett, joins on the line to discuss whether the coronavirus will hit China's chances of keeping up the trade deal, and whether it will drive more American supply chains out of the mainland.

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28 Feb 2020

Finbarr Bermingham talks to political economy editors Zhou Xin and John Carter about China's challenges in getting back to work, including the ongoing labour shortage, and a burgeoning agricultural crisis; Natixis senior economist Trinh Nguyen (of @trinhnomics fame) on how the labour shortage is killing Chinese manufacturing as big companies splash the cash, and how companies fleeing the trade war to Vietnam are learning there is no such thing as a clean break from China. 

Finbarr Bermingham talks to political economy editors Zhou Xin and John Carter about China's challenges in getting back to work, including the ongoing labour shortage, and a burgeoning agricultural crisis; Natixis senior economist Trinh Nguyen (of @trinhnomics fame) on how the labour shortage is killing Chinese manufacturing as big companies splash the cash, and how companies fleeing the trade war to Vietnam are learning there is no such thing as a clean break from China. 

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21 Feb 2020

Finbarr Bermingham and the SCMP team unpack how the US and Europe are responding to the disruption to China's economy as a result of the coronavirus. Political economy desk editor Zhou Xin analyses the ongoing impact on the Chinese economy and the possibility of Beijing invoking the force majeure clause on the US-China trade deal; Washington bureau chief Rob Delaney details the US Senators hoping to further push their agenda for economic decoupling amidst the background of criticism of Huawei; Beijing-based diplomacy correspondent Wendy Wu reveals European businesses are considering moving out of China as the crisis continues. 

Finbarr Bermingham and the SCMP team unpack how the US and Europe are responding to the disruption to China's economy as a result of the coronavirus. Political economy desk editor Zhou Xin analyses the ongoing impact on the Chinese economy and the possibility of Beijing invoking the force majeure clause on the US-China trade deal; Washington bureau chief Rob Delaney details the US Senators hoping to further push their agenda for economic decoupling amidst the background of criticism of Huawei; Beijing-based diplomacy correspondent Wendy Wu reveals European businesses are considering moving out of China as the crisis continues. 

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7 Feb 2020

Finbarr Bermingham talks to political economy editor Zhou Xin about how China is coping with its obligations to the phase one trade deal with the US as it battles the ongoing coronavirus epidemic. Renaud Anjoran, CEO of China manufacturing consultancy Sofeast Ltd analyses the crisis of staffing in China's manufacturing plants and the shockwaves being witnessed in global trade.  

Finbarr Bermingham talks to political economy editor Zhou Xin about how China is coping with its obligations to the phase one trade deal with the US as it battles the ongoing coronavirus epidemic. Renaud Anjoran, CEO of China manufacturing consultancy Sofeast Ltd analyses the crisis of staffing in China's manufacturing plants and the shockwaves being witnessed in global trade.  

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31 Jan 2020

It's a crucial moment for China's economy and trade, nevermind the phase one deal signed with the US. As it faces up to its role at the epicentre of a global health emergency, Beijing is also facing up to an impending political disaster if GDP drops below 5 per cent. Finbarr Bermingham analyses the impact of the coronavirus on global trade and the implications for China's economy with Nick Marro, global trade lead, Economist Intelligence Unit and Zhou Xin, political economy desk editor, South China Morning Post.

It's a crucial moment for China's economy and trade, nevermind the phase one deal signed with the US. As it faces up to its role at the epicentre of a global health emergency, Beijing is also facing up to an impending political disaster if GDP drops below 5 per cent. Finbarr Bermingham analyses the impact of the coronavirus on global trade and the implications for China's economy with Nick Marro, global trade lead, Economist Intelligence Unit and Zhou Xin, political economy desk editor, South China Morning Post.

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24 Jan 2020

 A week after China signed a phase one trade deal that seemed like a reprieve for its slowing economy, the country finds itself in a new and altogether more unpredictable crisis. Political Economy and China desk editors and reporters Zhou Xin, Teddy Ng, Mimi Lau and Kinling Lo bring us insights on the biggest story in the world, on the eve of the Lunar New Year Holiday during which 3 billion journeys will be made in China. We’ll also hear from National University of Singapore professor Alex Capri about another threat that will, in his view, outlive any tariff battle: the US-China tech war.

 A week after China signed a phase one trade deal that seemed like a reprieve for its slowing economy, the country finds itself in a new and altogether more unpredictable crisis. Political Economy and China desk editors and reporters Zhou Xin, Teddy Ng, Mimi Lau and Kinling Lo bring us insights on the biggest story in the world, on the eve of the Lunar New Year Holiday during which 3 billion journeys will be made in China. We’ll also hear from National University of Singapore professor Alex Capri about another threat that will, in his view, outlive any tariff battle: the US-China tech war.

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17 Jan 2020

Senior editors Zhou Xin and Robert Delaney parse the reality of phase one and public reaction in US and China; international trade lawyer Ben Kostrzewa from Hong Kong-based law firm Hogan Lovells discusses the immediate impact of the deal; reporter Sidney Leng unpacks the double shock announcements of China's GDP and its falling birth rates.  

Senior editors Zhou Xin and Robert Delaney parse the reality of phase one and public reaction in US and China; international trade lawyer Ben Kostrzewa from Hong Kong-based law firm Hogan Lovells discusses the immediate impact of the deal; reporter Sidney Leng unpacks the double shock announcements of China's GDP and its falling birth rates.  

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10 Jan 2020

Washington bureau chief Robert Delaney and political economy editor Zhou Xin analyse the context of next week's planned signing of the phase one trade deal; how China avoids being drawn into Trump's brand of reality-TV politics; the US Senators aiming to scale up their anti-China legislation after the phase one trade deal is signed; the grim reality of a 'phase two' trade deal and Cissy Zhou reports from Taiwan on how the elections are being influenced by the US-China trade war.

Washington bureau chief Robert Delaney and political economy editor Zhou Xin analyse the context of next week's planned signing of the phase one trade deal; how China avoids being drawn into Trump's brand of reality-TV politics; the US Senators aiming to scale up their anti-China legislation after the phase one trade deal is signed; the grim reality of a 'phase two' trade deal and Cissy Zhou reports from Taiwan on how the elections are being influenced by the US-China trade war.

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20 Dec 2019

In this last podcast of the year, we've got some very special guests to analyse the details we've been given on the US-China trade war deal, announced last week. International trade lawyer Sally Peng lays out the legal steps, economist Alicia Garcia Herrero frisks the numbers, while SCMP political economy editor Zhou Xin tells us what his sources have been telling him from Beijing.

In this last podcast of the year, we've got some very special guests to analyse the details we've been given on the US-China trade war deal, announced last week. International trade lawyer Sally Peng lays out the legal steps, economist Alicia Garcia Herrero frisks the numbers, while SCMP political economy editor Zhou Xin tells us what his sources have been telling him from Beijing.

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14 Dec 2019

A phase one trade deal is announced, but no details are revealed. What does it really mean? Why does China want to keep the details secret? The political economy team are joined by China desk deputy editor Teddy Ng to unpack what happens next. Meanwhile, the talk in China is not about trade: it's about the ongoing farming crisis sparked by the outbreak of African swine flu. Intrepid reporter Cissy Zhou reports in on an escalating economic and social crisis.

A phase one trade deal is announced, but no details are revealed. What does it really mean? Why does China want to keep the details secret? The political economy team are joined by China desk deputy editor Teddy Ng to unpack what happens next. Meanwhile, the talk in China is not about trade: it's about the ongoing farming crisis sparked by the outbreak of African swine flu. Intrepid reporter Cissy Zhou reports in on an escalating economic and social crisis.

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6 Dec 2019

This week special guest Adam Behsudi from Politico talks about the end of the appellate court for the WTO, while Finbarr Bermingham and John Carter go beyond Trump's weekly flip-flops to discuss the real news about US-China trade and how increasing US economic sanctions regarding Xinjiang indicate a much bigger trend towards de-coupling. China reporter Kinling Lo unpacks the sentiment in Beijing concerning US intervention over Hong Kong's protests, and how it's being used for political gain.

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This week special guest Adam Behsudi from Politico talks about the end of the appellate court for the WTO, while Finbarr Bermingham and John Carter go beyond Trump's weekly flip-flops to discuss the real news about US-China trade and how increasing US economic sanctions regarding Xinjiang indicate a much bigger trend towards de-coupling. China reporter Kinling Lo unpacks the sentiment in Beijing concerning US intervention over Hong Kong's protests, and how it's being used for political gain.

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